Muslim Threat To Britishness.

[Theland]

What do you think it will take before our politicians eventually confront the evil of Islam in our society?
With Muslim patrols on the streets demanding sharia law, and the ever encroaching demands for more rights, isn't it time that the fight back was taken out of the hands of the far right racist groups, and dealt with by mainstream politicians?
The Quran needs to be seen for what it is, a manual for violence.
Islam needs to be viewed realistically, as a religion of hatred and division.

[Theland]

Yes I do. And the sons I love getting hot under the collar every time the news comes on.

[keyplus90]

These are the verses of Quran about apostasy. And the majority of the scholars believe that if there is something clear in Quran then Hadith should not supersede it. On the other hands majority of the scholars and historians have written about these Ahadith that these were about those people who not only left the religion but also joined the enemies and fought (so again battle situation). For me 4:137 is the most conclusive. Because if a person is killed the first time he leaves Islam then how would he come back again as in that verse it says about three times that a person believes and then denies and believes and so on. However there are a few countries that have their own laws but I have always believed that it is Muslims who have to study more about what Islam really teaches and they need to do that after they come out of their political differences.

QURAN:
[And say [O Muhammad]: 'The truth [has now come] you're your Sustainer: let, then, him or her who wills, believe in it, and let him or her who wills, reject it.] (Al-Kahf 18:29)

[There shall be no coercion in matters of faith.] (Al-Baqarah 2:256)

[And so, [O Prophet,] exhort them; your task is only to exhort. You can not compel them [to believe].] (Al-Ghashiyah 88:21-22)

[Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with you, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me' – and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as the unlettered people, 'Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?' And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away – behold, your duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures.] (Aal `Imran 3:20)

[Behold, as for those who come to believe, and then deny the truth, and again come to believe, and again deny the truth, and thereafter grow stubborn in their denial of truth — God will not forgive them, nor will guide them in any way.] (An-Nisaa' 4:137)

Verily, We sent down to you [O Muhammad] the Book [Qur'an] for mankind in truth. So, whosoever goes astray, he goes astray to his own loss. And you [O Muhammad] are not a guardian over them. (Az-Zumar 39:41)

Khandro – There are black sheep’s in Islamic countries but let me tell you one thing that most of the stories you hear about people who left Islam and then were in danger of life, say in Pakistan (y own birth country) they do so to get asylum in Western countries. And majority of them take the first flight back home with a box of sweets when they get a passport. I offered another friend of mine here to come to Pakistan with me where I will pay for flight and accommodation and I will show you people who left Islam and so far no one has killed them. Of course there are incidents but media pick on isolated incidents. Where the same media right now is completely ignoring that how many Christians, Sikhs and Muslims are being killed or forcefully converted to Hinduism in India.

[naomi24]

Keyplus, if this is what you’re talking about no deaths are mentioned, but money is.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1150097

So much for faith.

[Theland]

Anjem Choudry is a great example of Islam in practice?