Oap Dead In His House For Nearly 2 Months

[mikey4444]

I had a nasty shock yesterday. I had to visit a house in the Valleys in the course of my work. It was a small terraced house. I knocked on the door a couple of times but I then noticed that there were huge quantities of blue-bottles clustered around the front windows.

I suspected the worst and I knocked the house next door, where the man there confirmed the worst. The OAP who lived in the house had been found dead in his armchair the previous week.

The chap I was speaking to had been concerned but had presumed the old chap was away staying with relatives.

The image of those horrible blue bottles kept me awake last night.

[Mosaic]

kinell!! a traditional saying from darkest Salford.
You take a few hours out to settle the deliveries and fit some skirting.....and the same few have started being orrible to someone who's had a nasty turn.

Why revel so much in someone else being upset? Just curious to know at what point the unpleasantness becomes trolling.

Guy encounters house of death. Not in his JD, but makes enquiries nonetheless. Finds the scenario sad and gruesome and shares on AB. Gets scoffed at, told his head's in the clouds, advised about fishing (kinells tharabout?)

You wouldn't believe it in a storybook.

[Mamyalynne]

Mosaic - interesting points there.

I have always said AB is the best place to come for empathy and support, but just now and then it flips on its head and does the opposite. Not nice to read is it.

[Mosaic]

Thing is mama-L it seems to be one small handful of folk who are just looking for a reason to be nasty.
Let's hope they don't find themselves needing a little TLC cos karma dictates they won't -kin gettit.

[Hypognosis]

Mosaic,

your post was directly after one of mine. Please *point at people* so that I know whether you mean me or not.

This thread is a sensitive area for me because I identify with the dead guy. It's a fate in store for me and I get angry at people who claim the 'loner' "kept themself to themself", so I was venting about that. I have no intention of being mean to mikey.

[Mosaic]

Not at all you Hypog. I think our posts were slightly close in time? You haven't been orrible to anyone have you? So proceed with a clear conscience, which I am sorry to have troubled.
Anyone retro seems to think it's OK to have a go, from a distance though, always from a distance.

[Retrochic]

If anyone knows anyone who works in the emergency services industry they will know that one way of diffusing the gruesome scenes they have to endure is with humor -albeit black humor -its how people have to get through seeing what most people never and don't ever want to see. I don't think any 'ribbing' was done with malice.

Mosaic -IF that dig is about me then can I refer you to my post of 10.35. its easy to cherry pick answers to make people look bad -I could do it with some of yours but I've grown up .

[Mosaic]

Good.

[mikey4444]

I drove past the house again this morning and the blue bottles were still there, so it doesn't appear that the Council have any great sense of urgency here !

[marval]

What a horrible shock for you Mikey, it is so sad when people die in circumstances like that. People can't be made to socialise, but it doesn't hurt to keep an eye out for them. You would have thought the council would have begun to deal with the situation. I hope the images you have will diminish.

[mikey4444]

Thanks Marval.

[gness]

It is sad as some have said....and a horrible image, Mikey.....

It's not difficult to keep an eye out for a cranky neighbour who likes to be alone....just notice a change in habits, curtains not moving etc. and give it some thought without, as Sqad says, trying to make the poor soul socialise....x

[jomifl]

I'm not laying in the earth letting those worms eat me lol!
Retro, a couple of points
1. worms are vegetarians
2. you'd be dead so you wouldn't be laying.

[jennyjoan]

Mamy - it happened for my mother luckily - she died in my arms but not denigrating your word " romanticise" death as the ideal being someone stroking your forehead and whispering they love you as you draw your final breath - far from the truth for many. But many's a time I know while she was wired to this and that - I knew my mother was tired cos the more tightly I was pulling her and crying - she was pulling away from me. A nun friend said to me Jenny "isn't that nice - as she was pulling away from your arms - she was sliding into God's. Thought it was nice the way she put it.

[Mamyalynne]

No no Jennyjoan, you are right to point that out and of course lots of people die in their loved ones arms - I was generalising of course.

But many also die alone, whether family/carers have left for a while or they wait until you are sleeping like my husband did.

[jennyjoan]

that is correct - I know of a massive family who cared for their mother at home very well. one of the daughters turned round to open the door after feeding her and when she looked at her - she was dead.

[tamborine]

Mikey, why dont you ring council Environment to clean up. Far more useful than observing.

[mikey4444]

Tambo...according to the neighbour next door, they have already been informed and have visited ( briefly)

[retrocop]

Well the evil retro has returned to the thread.
Spot on retrochic.People who work in the emergency service industry and the armed forces do develop a dark macabre humour and I ,for one, am not going to apologise to anyone on this site for that.
This scenario is an everyday occurrence and if people who worked with this allowed their emotions to rule then they would be unable to function and carry out the nasty, unpleasant tasks that others here find shocking.
To listen to an adult man proclaim he has had a nasty shock and cannot sleep because he saw flies in a window is unbelievable. A man,he never knew and was not related to him died and this happened a week previously and was learnt by anecdotal accounts from a neighbour!
When I am informed "we all live in the real world" by hc, I have to reply ,"Yes but some do not get out in it enough to realise what happens regularly around their sheltered lives".
If mikey is man enough to take pot shots and snipe at the police here and the U.S. at every opportunity, from afar,always from afar, then he should be man enough to accept some ricochets.
"I had a nasty shock yesterday" because an old man died peacefully,not violently,in the comfort of his arm chair!!
I would consider shock to occur when a middle aged lady,a cub scout leader, talked calmly to two homicidal maniacs armed with a machete and a handgun to try and placate them, at no small risk to herself,whilst trying to administer comfort and aid to a young man who was dying in her arms because he had been almost decapitated.
I will not ask forgiveness for my derision on this post.
In a nasty world and and in the midst of a crisis I would sooner have a middle aged lady by my side than someone who is in shock about a natural sud death. I am sure that lady didn't wallow and expect pity.

[Mosaic]

Good to know you're back off your shift at samaritans Retrocop.
Now back in the real world.....

Nobody contributing to this post has any idea how the deceased died. All we know for certain is that his death went sadly unmarked by the world. He could indeed have been terrorised by all the kinds of scenarios you describe. It could have been yet another wet job by unnameable organisations, hired because of what he knew. So, he died, was left to decay, and an unsuspecting passerby was upset by the thought. Why does that lead you to mock and denigrate him?