Is This Emancipation And Fashion Forward Self-Expression By Some, Or Is It So Demeaning Towards Normal Women?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3332832/Why-X-rated-red-carpet-dresses-betray-women-Celebrities-claim-make-look-powerful-successful-JAN-MOIR-says-deluding-demeaning-sex.html

[Mamyalynne]

Some 'Ladies of night' may do - but with slightly less aplomb, and no red carpet.


http://tinyurl.com/oqxgmu3

[anotheoldgit]

Mosaic

She is a model posing in a studio, quite a bit different from posing in public.

[anotheoldgit]

jim360

/// it gives the media an excuse to complain about how demeaning such dresses are while also publishing several images to show just how demeaning it all is... ///

How else can they construct an argument, if they do not show examples?

[jim360]

I suppose that's half-true, AOG -- although it could also be left to the imagination, no? Anyway, it's a typical media thing to be simultaneously shocked by something while also sharing the cause of the outrage -- everyone does it, I'm not criticising any paper in particular.

[anotheoldgit]

Mamyalynne

/// Some 'Ladies of night' may do - but with slightly less aplomb, and no red carpet. ///

All done on the 'cheap' I suppose, hey that word is most appropriate in this case also.

[hc4361]

Those dresses do nothing for me. I much prefer the classy and beautiful style of Audrey Hepburn

[viv41]

Or have lovely Katie looked on Strictly week before last in that beautiful gown cut to the waist.

[anotheoldgit]

jim360

/// I suppose that's half-true, AOG -- although it could also be left to the imagination, no? ///

Not really Jim, because there are examples of hundreds if not thousands of female stars, starlets and celebrities, strutting the World's red carpets at the various awards etc.

But the ones that Jan Moir has chosen to write her condemnations against, are the more extreme examples, and for that we must see, so as to comment.

Strange how the Male of the species, can get along quite nicely, by all dressing for these events in the more demure evening dress.

[anotheoldgit]

viv41

Who's Katie?

But you mention dancing, Dance venues are a completely different environment, in which to wear such dresses

[andy-hughes]

I find it ironic in the extreme that a Daily Mail journalist writes a feature complaining about the exploitation of women, when the paper's website - one of the most popular in the world - is almost entirely populated by photographs of women showing their 'toned abs' 'busty displays' 'ample chests and toned curves, 'impressively taut tummies, 'sexy bikini bodies' 'picture perfect posteriors' and so on and so on ...

If you are going to take umbrage at the perceived exploitation of your gender, then find a more appropriate platform that a national newspaper who's website does little else on a daily basis.

The biggest irony of all is that amongst all that pap on the website, there is a link to this very feature!

[jim360]

Well, either way, AOG -- as long as it's their choice what to wear I don't see that Jan Moir has any kind of point.

[viv41]

Katie Derham on Strictly Come Dancing, she's pure class aog and wore a beautiful gown for one of her dances, looked stunning even though it was slashed to the waist, she knew how to pull it off you see.

[Islay]

Perhaps anotheroldgit you would prefer it if pretty young girls covered themselves up with a burkha?

[anotheoldgit]

/// The biggest irony of all is that amongst all that pap on the website, there is a link to this very feature! ///

It is a newspaper which caters for all tastes, and as numerous of sections in which to display them, one does not have to delve into just the 'juicy' ones.

It also has a number of journalists that do not have to toe the papers line, they are free to comment on all matter of things.

That is why it is one of the most popular in the world website.

So don't just use another thread to get over your anti-Daily Mail agenda, stick to the question, as you are always telling others to do.

Or if you wish carry on, and hope that the thread gets removed as most of them where you are involved in do.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - //It is a newspaper which caters for all tastes, and as numerous of sections in which to display them, one does not have to delve into just the 'juicy' ones. //

The newspaper is indeed varied, but the website - which is what my point concerned - is not. It is little but schoolboy titillation with the expressions I quoted - all of which were gleaned from today's offerings.

// It also has a number of journalists that do not have to toe the papers line, they are free to comment on all matter of things.

That is why it is one of the most popular in the world website. //

I know, I have been a Mail reader for over thirty years, but again, my issue is with the point about a senior journalist taking issue with sexism and demeaning apparel, when the website is composed of very little else.

//So don't just use another thread to get over your anti-Daily Mail agenda, stick to the question, as you are always telling others to do.//

I don't have an 'anti-Daily Mail agenda' - and I think my response is perfectly in line with your OP - it concerns the feature to which you posted a link - as against the website of the same newspaper.

//Or if you wish carry on, and hope that the thread gets removed as most of them where you are involved in do. //

Shall we park that one there? I think so.

[campbellking]

Just look a bit daft and rather chilly to me.