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Do American Supporters Of The Right To Bear Arms Fear Demonization When Massacres Occur?
The killings of small school children at Sandy Hook some years ago comes to mind. Or is it that the NRA has such a slick PR machine they're confident they can weather any storm?
That would be in stark contrast to the fears of followers of Islam in the US who have expressed such concerns.
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That would be in stark contrast to the fears of followers of Islam in the US who have expressed such concerns.
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This happens after every gun outrage in America, whether its their own home-grown nutters, or foreign nutters, as in this case. It doesn't seem to bother Americans over much, as the hue and cry calms down after a couple of days and then its back to normal in the gun shops, until the next time.
Today's news is tomorrows chip papers.
If you remember, after the massacre at Dunblane, there was a concerted effort to change our gun laws, starting with the Snowdrop Campaign :::
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But I have given up wondering why there hasn't been a similar campaign in America. I'm sure something could be achieved if enough people got together and campaigned.
Today's news is tomorrows chip papers.
If you remember, after the massacre at Dunblane, there was a concerted effort to change our gun laws, starting with the Snowdrop Campaign :::
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But I have given up wondering why there hasn't been a similar campaign in America. I'm sure something could be achieved if enough people got together and campaigned.
The right to bear arms is ingrained in the American way so they have a completely different outlook on the issue to us over here e.g. this is considered a suitable Xmas card https:/
But by how many Americans Bibs ?
I have American friends who seem to live their lives without being surrounded by sub machine guns, and there must be millions more like them.
Ordinary, sensible Americans need to organise and get a movement going against this ridiculous proliferation of entirely unnecessary weaponry.
I have American friends who seem to live their lives without being surrounded by sub machine guns, and there must be millions more like them.
Ordinary, sensible Americans need to organise and get a movement going against this ridiculous proliferation of entirely unnecessary weaponry.
//But I have given up wondering why there hasn't been a similar campaign in America.//
because the prevailing view amongst the gun lobby in the US is that Sandy Hook would never have happened if the staff had been properly armed. thus in their view such a campaign would be mis-aimed; elimination of gun-free zones is the campaign watchword.
because the prevailing view amongst the gun lobby in the US is that Sandy Hook would never have happened if the staff had been properly armed. thus in their view such a campaign would be mis-aimed; elimination of gun-free zones is the campaign watchword.
"ichkeria....it will make no difference whatsoever. Guns are big, big business in America and there are far too many vested interests to make any change possible. "
Indeed. But I wonder if we will continue to hear stuff like "They wouldn't dare come here with our gun laws" or "if France had our gun laws etc etc"
The truth is, everyone is at risk in America as a result of their obsession with the right to "bear arms" - anyone be they a Moslem, an "enemy of Islam", a pro-abortionsit, a pro-lifer, black, white, you name it
Indeed. But I wonder if we will continue to hear stuff like "They wouldn't dare come here with our gun laws" or "if France had our gun laws etc etc"
The truth is, everyone is at risk in America as a result of their obsession with the right to "bear arms" - anyone be they a Moslem, an "enemy of Islam", a pro-abortionsit, a pro-lifer, black, white, you name it
The problem here is there are a few people on here that just dont get that the US is not the UK.
Guns laws, such as in the UK, would simply not work nor would they be enforceable or accepted - and we all know what happen in the US when you outlaw something popular (Another Al Capone can emerge)
//I have American friends who seem to live their lives without being surrounded by sub machine guns, and there must be millions more like them. //
Maybe but do they live their lives surrounded by handguns, did you deliberately choose your words there carefully?
I agree there is no case for joe public owning automatic weapons but I dont agree you can remove the estimated 400 million guns many of which are basic handguns.
Guns laws, such as in the UK, would simply not work nor would they be enforceable or accepted - and we all know what happen in the US when you outlaw something popular (Another Al Capone can emerge)
//I have American friends who seem to live their lives without being surrounded by sub machine guns, and there must be millions more like them. //
Maybe but do they live their lives surrounded by handguns, did you deliberately choose your words there carefully?
I agree there is no case for joe public owning automatic weapons but I dont agree you can remove the estimated 400 million guns many of which are basic handguns.
YMB...I always choose my words carefully !
I have 5 groups of friends living in New York State, New England, the Mid West and California and none of them have any guns whatsoever to my knowledge. I have stayed with them many times over the last 40 years and all of them have the same view that most of us over have about guns.
Not everybody in America is a daft redneck, with a basement full of guns.
Its these kind of people that need to get together, and organise, just like they did in Dunblane with the Snowdrop Campaign.
I have 5 groups of friends living in New York State, New England, the Mid West and California and none of them have any guns whatsoever to my knowledge. I have stayed with them many times over the last 40 years and all of them have the same view that most of us over have about guns.
Not everybody in America is a daft redneck, with a basement full of guns.
Its these kind of people that need to get together, and organise, just like they did in Dunblane with the Snowdrop Campaign.
// After San Bernardino, I wonder what their position now is on their gun laws deterring terror attacks. //
no different
Madman stands up at rally and says: I want you to know that Mr Obama wants to take the arms off us when we use them to protect our women and children - and I can tell him Mr President you cant do that !
Audience of rednecks erupts in wide screams whistles and applause which sorta goes on until the next massacre ( which isnt very long )
no different
Madman stands up at rally and says: I want you to know that Mr Obama wants to take the arms off us when we use them to protect our women and children - and I can tell him Mr President you cant do that !
Audience of rednecks erupts in wide screams whistles and applause which sorta goes on until the next massacre ( which isnt very long )
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