Eu Referendum: Cameron Defends Eu Deal From Critics

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35479506

What do our AB Tory voters thinks about this ? Has dave brought home the bacon ?

[youngmafbog]

Well you cant polish a turd you can only put glitter(the bright sparkly stuff not Gary) on it.

Seems Dave has run out of glitter though as this one still stinks and looks bad.

[mikey4444]

Oh dear !...not a good day for the Tories then it would seem !

[Khandro]

What amazes me is the patronizing of us all being done by the media and politicians, who do they think they are? As if we need the endorsement of Teresa May or Boris or a few piddling adjustments to welfare before we can decide.

[DTCwordfan]

I disagree...wait until the end game plays out....not that he will get everything. As I said, damn him if he wins and damn him if he doesn't....this is a no win game - but wait to the yes to Europe silent majority lot really come to the fore, just as the nae to independence lot crushed the Scottish pollsters.

[Togo]

Not a good day for the Tories? Of course it is. It's just that poor Dave isn't one. The Tories will have the vote, on the choice of leaving or staying in the corrupt EUSSR, in the bag after the latest simpering cave in. Roll on.

[-Talbot-]

Red card explained 2016

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35471248


Red card explained 2008
https://twitter.com/BBCWorldatOne/status/694783530342178816?lang=en-gb

[jourdain2]

I am amazed that no major voice is pointing out that Dave is having to ASK!

This is, surely, the whole point. We are not free - unless we repeal the Bill, which could be done more or less straight away.

[naomi24]

Mikey, I’ve read that report and it doesn’t seem nearly as bad as you clearly hope it will turn out to be. Funny how you constantly relish the prospect of trouble. Wishful thinking perhaps. Personally, I have no interest in deals made with Europe. In my opinion the quicker this country is out the better.

TWR, you always seem to be moaning about how hard done by you are. What do you want?

[DTCwordfan]

£100,000 a month, naomi, and financed by the French, or from Berlin....

[mikey4444]

Naomi...I want to stay in the EU, and what dave has achieved isn't so bad, at least to me.

I asked what Tory voters thing and you came up with the goods !

But you are right about one thing though.....I will enjoy the Tory Party tearing themselves apart over Europe....yet again !

[Togo]

//I will enjoy the Tory Party tearing themselves apart over Europe....yet again //
I will enjoy the Labour Party tearing themselves apart over each other.

[naomi24]

Mikey, I came up with the goods? How so?

The Tory party won't tear itself apart, but far be it from me to burst your bubble.

[Quizmonster]

He and I are as far apart politically as it is possible to be, but my favourite politician for some time has been - and still is - Jacob Rees Mogg. He described Cameron's ‘achievement’ re an EU deal as “thin gruel which has been watered down”.
That pretty-well sums up the case. We knew, surely, that this was all Cameron would be able to produce, yet he presented it as if it were a fait accompli. He seems to have forgotten that there are 27 other governments which still have to agree to this watery diet for us!

[anotheoldgit]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/02/04/09/article-3430686-30DE784200000578-601_636x382.jpg

This makes for interesting reading, surely even the most anti Daily Mail Brigade member must agree with what's written here.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3430870/DAILY-MAIL-COMMENT-speak-England.html

[sevenOP]

Cameron supports the TTIP which,if passed, will result in a huge loss of British sovereignty.

23 of his own party questioned 'the deal' during the debate on it
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/watch-david-cameron-being-humiliated-7302331

Spain imposed on its own volition a 6 month working qualification for EU migrants to qualify for out of work benefits so the narrow, carefully worded 'narrative' purporting to be Britain claiming back sovereignty can be seen as the Public shepherding it is.

[Old_Geezer]

Cameron has to 'big up' the offers he gets but it was inevitably a pointless exercise. The minimum change required is too fundamental to be accepted, and what is suggested and disputed is already far from the requirement. Countries are disputing it's too far and in reality it is nowhere near far enough.

It's the EU's own fault allowing the lie of it being a common market only to be endorsed here from the start. And Heath should've had more sense than to think he had a mandate to make such a decision, to enter without consulting the public and give genuine information on which to base a decision, in the first place.