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Other EU officials said Vienna’s action was tantamount to “giving the finger to the rest of Europe”
good for them...
shame we dont do the same and give the empire builders the finger !....seems like austria still remembers how the last empire it was part of was finished...
Other EU officials said Vienna’s action was tantamount to “giving the finger to the rest of Europe”
good for them...
shame we dont do the same and give the empire builders the finger !....seems like austria still remembers how the last empire it was part of was finished...
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Yes, how dare they restrict the flow of migrants to just 30,000 a year. Relative to their population of about 8 million it is equivalent to the UK accepting around 250,000 per annum.
The Euromaniacs simply don't understand that when the solid stuff hits the air conditioning it's every man for himself. Nations such as Austria are not going to allow themselves to be overrun by uncontrolled illegal immigration and end up like Sweden. Though having said that, 30,000 a year is going to impoise severe strain on their services.
The Euromaniacs simply don't understand that when the solid stuff hits the air conditioning it's every man for himself. Nations such as Austria are not going to allow themselves to be overrun by uncontrolled illegal immigration and end up like Sweden. Though having said that, 30,000 a year is going to impoise severe strain on their services.
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//This is a prime example of the way the EU operates - which is why I believe the country will vote to leave it. //
I don't think the public will vote to exit .
Folk are too scared of the unknown and will stick to what is familiar .
Cameron will come back with a 'deal' of some sort , which he will claim is a significant and meaningful concession .
The Downing street publicity machine will roar into action telling people to vote to stay in Europe
//This is a prime example of the way the EU operates - which is why I believe the country will vote to leave it. //
I don't think the public will vote to exit .
Folk are too scared of the unknown and will stick to what is familiar .
Cameron will come back with a 'deal' of some sort , which he will claim is a significant and meaningful concession .
The Downing street publicity machine will roar into action telling people to vote to stay in Europe
Bazile - //andy
//This is a prime example of the way the EU operates - which is why I believe the country will vote to leave it. //
I don't think the public will vote to exit .
Folk are too scared of the unknown and will stick to what is familiar .
Cameron will come back with a 'deal' of some sort , which he will claim is a significant and meaningful concession .
The Downing street publicity machine will roar into action telling people to vote to stay in Europe //
I disagree - because I believe that political issues are, as far as the 'average' voter considers them, a matter of perception.
It is my view that the 'average' voter views the European Union in two definite and hostile ways -
It is an organisation that forces unworkable legislkation such as the Human Rights Act, on the UK population.
and
It is responsible for the ever-increasing flood of migrants into the UK with its planned extension of the 'no borders' policy.
I do not suggest that the populace is making informed decisions about the pending referendum - but I do believe that its inherent hostility to unpopular laws forced by foreigners will encourage the majority to cut us loose from the European shackles.
Mr Cameron's emphasis on 'trade links' are not seen as impacting on the man in the street - laughable Human Rights rules and mass immigration are.
//This is a prime example of the way the EU operates - which is why I believe the country will vote to leave it. //
I don't think the public will vote to exit .
Folk are too scared of the unknown and will stick to what is familiar .
Cameron will come back with a 'deal' of some sort , which he will claim is a significant and meaningful concession .
The Downing street publicity machine will roar into action telling people to vote to stay in Europe //
I disagree - because I believe that political issues are, as far as the 'average' voter considers them, a matter of perception.
It is my view that the 'average' voter views the European Union in two definite and hostile ways -
It is an organisation that forces unworkable legislkation such as the Human Rights Act, on the UK population.
and
It is responsible for the ever-increasing flood of migrants into the UK with its planned extension of the 'no borders' policy.
I do not suggest that the populace is making informed decisions about the pending referendum - but I do believe that its inherent hostility to unpopular laws forced by foreigners will encourage the majority to cut us loose from the European shackles.
Mr Cameron's emphasis on 'trade links' are not seen as impacting on the man in the street - laughable Human Rights rules and mass immigration are.
Alas, baz, I think you're right.
As I said in another question, people were interviewed yesterday to see how much they knew about the referendum. Many did not know it was happening, many more had not a clue what it was about. These very people will scared into voting for change by a government desperate to retain the status quo. Thus will disappear and our one and only chance to free ourselves of this ridiculous, corrupt and useless dictatorship.
As I said in another question, people were interviewed yesterday to see how much they knew about the referendum. Many did not know it was happening, many more had not a clue what it was about. These very people will scared into voting for change by a government desperate to retain the status quo. Thus will disappear and our one and only chance to free ourselves of this ridiculous, corrupt and useless dictatorship.
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divebuddy - //A-H, Anybody who votes in or out on the basis of how they feel about the Human Rights Act is in for a bit of a shock. The HRA has precisely nothing whatsoever to do with the EU. But, of course you knew that, didn't you. //
Yes thank you, I did know that, and as NJ correctly surmises, my view concerns less the facts of the issues to be considered, that the average voter's view of what those facts are.
To reiterate the most important part of my post - perception is everything.
Yes thank you, I did know that, and as NJ correctly surmises, my view concerns less the facts of the issues to be considered, that the average voter's view of what those facts are.
To reiterate the most important part of my post - perception is everything.
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me thinks it will be like the Scottish referendum....the silent majority in favour of staying in will show though.....despite polls and foot stamping of the nay campaign, and rightly so. The EU may be far from perfect, but we need the alliances - as they need us. All DC needs do is threaten a walk-out around 3,30 and that he will recommend no - and watch the capitulation, a couple of minor give-aways on the fringe, probably around migration - as that is a non-plausible issue in this referendum as it will be there whether we are in or out.
divebuddy - //AH You said....//I do not suggest that the populace is making informed decisions about the pending referendum............................//.
You obviously meant to say "uninformed" otherwise that wouldn't make much sense.
Still, you say you knew about HRA/EU. Right. //
No, I did mean that I suggest that the public is making uniformed decisions - decisions where they are not necessarily apprised of all the facts in order for them to make an informed decision.
But in my view, informed or not, the public will vote to leave the EU, because they do not trust European politicians to have our interests at heart - and judging by the struggle Mr Cameron is undergoing - why would they?
You obviously meant to say "uninformed" otherwise that wouldn't make much sense.
Still, you say you knew about HRA/EU. Right. //
No, I did mean that I suggest that the public is making uniformed decisions - decisions where they are not necessarily apprised of all the facts in order for them to make an informed decision.
But in my view, informed or not, the public will vote to leave the EU, because they do not trust European politicians to have our interests at heart - and judging by the struggle Mr Cameron is undergoing - why would they?
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