National Living Wage Comes Into Force

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35935677

I have issues with the concept of £7:20 being anything like a real "living wage"
but it means a pay rise, nevertheless.

Anybody on here that will benefit as from today ?

[fiction-factory]

Unfortunately though, there a link between our costs and the fact that so many UK businesses can no longer compete worldwide in manufacturing of clothes, steel etc. Most consumers are happy to pay Primark prices for clothes that are made by workers overseas paid less than one tenth of what workers here would be paid.
Many of the costs of the new living wage will be passed onto us anyway since it pushes up the costs of careworkers, classroom assistants, shop staff, hospital cleaners

[Old_Geezer]

And there is the argument that products for low paid worker companies elsewhere should attract an import duty to even up the playing field. (If feeling generous it could be added to the foreign aid budget and sent back for genuine aid projects.)

[naomi24]

Mikey, you’re fantasising again. I don’t condemn the chancellor for raising the ‘Living Wage’, and I’ve seen no condemnation from anyone else either - not even from you.

[Old_Geezer]

"from"
not "for"
like I typed >:-(

[bazwillrun]

"Something I am finding somewhat puzzling this morning, is how few of the right-wingers here on AB are flocking to support the Chancellor "

because most people have a life,unlike you, whos seems to revolve around this board and your little point scoring posts and copy and paste of the headlines that just about everybody has already seen.

why do you foolishly assume because people arent up at the crack of dawn gushing about GO they dont support him ?...maybe they arent that bothered about point scoring and petty posting on here, dont suppose that entered your tiny marxist brain.

and as young has already pointed out you have no business nous whatsoever...

[tamborine]

Oh gawd, more money for working time wasted on mobiles :(

[RATTER15]

"Oh gawd, more money for working time wasted on mobiles :("

stop being so ridiculous, do you really think that being on minimum wage makes you more likely to spend time on a mobile phone. Absolute nonsense!!!

[Svejk]

Imo, there should be no minimum/lving wage, no in-work benefits, no equal pay legislation. Market forces should govern these things, as they always have done. However, there can be no more importing cheap labour for the 'proper' system to work.

[mikey4444]

Oh dear...with friends like most of you lot, he certainly doesn't need any enemies.

Damned by faint praise...again !

[naomi24]

Mikey, you do talk tripe at times - you really do. I asked you earlier if you'd have preferred him not to have increased it. Can't help thinking your answer - had you answered - would have been yes. That would have given you something to genuinely complain about. Sadly, since he has you are obliged to fabricate complaints, but nothing new there.

[mikey4444]

Naomi...if you read my comments this morning, you will see that I am grateful for this rise. I am also grateful for Tories u-turn on the Minimum Wage.

But you are ignoring my points about the introduction of the Minimum Wage, by Labour, and this new invention of a "Living Wage", that Osborne has now introduced. I am particularly interested in why Osborne thought a 24 year old should be paid so much less that a 25 year old, but you don't seem to have anything to say about that either ! You may not have anything to say, of course.

What I am missing from your comments however, and every other Tory supporter, is some fulsome praise for Osborne....after all, you voted for him !

[naomi24]

Mikey, //I am particularly interested in why Osborne thought a 24 year old should be paid so much less that a 25 year old, but you don't seem to have anything to say about that either//

You haven’t asked me or anyone else as far as I can see. Jomlett mentioned it briefly but I can’t see any mention of it from you until now, so your interest isn't that 'particular'. Wages seem to be on a scale governed by age . This from the government website:

Apprentice: £3.30
Under 18: £3.87
18-20: £5.30
21-24: £6.70
25+: £7.20

…so you may as well ask why a 17 year old isn’t paid at the same rate as a 25 year old.

If anyone should be giving him credit for raising wages it's people like you who bang on about the plight of the working man. It seems to me that you’re happy for wages to rise, but only if that rise is instigated by a party other than the Conservatives – and that’s fundamentally dishonest, Mikey.

You’re right. I did vote for him – and he’s upped the wages of the working man - and the tax the working man pays on those wages has been lowered. Good. Just what you wanted, Mikey. Say ‘thank you’ Naomi. ;o)

[mikey4444]

It seems that I have you on the run this morning Naomi !

[naomi24]

Really? How do you work that one out?

[Svejk]

♫ who do you think you are kidding, mr mikey ♫

[Baldric]

Careful you don't fall off that Soapbox Mikey!

[fiction-factory]

I am not sure why expensive TV ads have been taken out to announce this change