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The Kinnocks are irrelevant, the Tory Party isn’t in disarray, and as for salvaging what Peter Pedant describes as economic advantages, to whose real economic advantage is it that we remain in the single market which carries with it the obligation to allow the free movement of people, one of the fundamental principles the majority of the electorate...
21:59 Sun 03rd Jul 2016
//Whoever the new Prime Minister turns out to be, Nigel Farage should be contracted in to manage Brexit.//

b/c he can be relied on to *** any chances we have, to salvage economic advantages
+++ ^^^ was phe ack
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good old socialist Kinnochio, you can't beat him and the Mrs can you!
// can we trust a non brexit pm .....//

well can we trust a brexiter on anything ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36693200

meanwhile the chaos continues .....

The Kinnocks are irrelevant, the Tory Party isn’t in disarray, and as for salvaging what Peter Pedant describes as economic advantages, to whose real economic advantage is it that we remain in the single market which carries with it the obligation to allow the free movement of people, one of the fundamental principles the majority of the electorate rejected? From a trading point of view we are by far much more valuable to the EU than it is to us. Do you really think the Germans, the French, and the Italians will put their thriving businesses at risk and thousands of their workers on the breadline by refusing to sell their cars to us? I don’t think so – and if they do choose to cut off their noses to spite their faces, I’ve no doubt that Asia will be only too willing to oblige us. Man up or goodness sake!! There’s a whole world out there – and it isn’t likely to end any time soon!
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stop talking sense naomi, gromit won't like it!
Haha! :o)
The research shows that Lady Kinnock earned £774,838 during her time as an MEP.
She was also entitled to a daily subsistence allowance worth £505,818 over that time, travel allowances worth almost £1.25million and general allowances worth £577,071.
In addition, she was entitled to secretarial allowances worth more than £2.3million, although these are to pay staff.(Family)
She also has a pension worth £67,836 a year, which would require a pot of £950,000 to buy in the private sector.
Lord Kinnock earned £1.85million in salary during his 10 years at the EU and qualified for a residence allowance for living in Brussels worth £276,962, an entertainment allowance worth £64,564, an installation allowance of £25,348 for taking the job, a resettlement allowance of £13,745 for leaving the job and a transition allowance, to help adjust to life outside Brussels, worth £355,143.
He also qualifies for a pension which pays out £83,089 a year and would cost £1.16million to buy in the private sector. The terms require him to remain supportive of the EU project.*******Read that again*********
In all, the Kinnocks qualified for pay, allowances and pensions worth £10.2million. The lack of receipts required for EU expenses makes it impossible to know if they claimed living allowances on the same home. (LACK OF RECEIPTS)
Lord Kinnock campaigned for years to have the House abolished, describing the Lords as “brigands, muggers, bribers and gangsters”.
// the Tory Party isn’t in disarray,//

helloooo
we dont have a prime minister...

and the one we thought we would have - wont stand for election.
and the ones we might have, seem to be brexiters-lite
or remainers turned brexiters as that seems the flavour of the week.

so
// the Tory Party isn’t in disarray,//
righto - good one ! another belter from Ni !
The terms require him to remain supportive of the EU project.*******


Lord Kinnock campaigned for years to have the House abolished, describing the Lords as “brigands, muggers, bribers and gangsters”.


Nice to know that he's not one of that type then !!!!!!


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David Cameron is the PM, PP, do keep up.
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Kinnochio goes from strength to strength! He's popular in Wales I believe.
Peter Pedant, //helloooo
we dont have a prime minister... //

We do.
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//He's popular in Wales I believe.//

Not as popular as darling Nige 3T. Not with the Welsh anyway.
// stop talking sense naomi, gromit won't like it! //

Fortunately she isn't.

// From a trading point of view we are by far much more valuable to the EU than it is to us. //

The EU depends on the UK for 16% of its export trade.
The UKs exports to the EU are nearly 3 times that at 45%.

You can argue that we can plug the 45% loss by trading with the rest of the world, which is true. But likewise, the EU can plug the 16% loss of exporting to us by exporting to the rest of the world also. Which sounds like a more achievable target.
Oh dear!
^ :o)
//The EU depends on the UK for 16% of its export trade.
The UKs exports to the EU are nearly 3 times that at 45%. //

Percentages, the official lies so beloved by our detractors.

Now does any one know what these statistics translate into in the real world?
EU exports 16% of its total exports to Britain, how much exactly is that in real term. I think that it is £291Billion!!!!!
The lovely big fat (3 X times as much remember) 45% of UK exports to the EU is a real figure of £229 Billion. Now it is a while since I was at school, but I can still figure out that 229 is not 3 X 291. Lies, damned lies, and statistics.
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However you dress it up gromit they sell to us 10 times what we sell to them, they will not want to mess about with those deals.

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