What Would Be Your Choice?

[vernonk]

Yet another random attack - this time in London leaving one innocent woman dead and five injured. If it happened in France, the Police would have shot the bstrd dead...taken the scum off the planet. Here he gets tasered, spends a night in hospital then questioned, then no doubt a jail sentence (at Britains expense) awaits...maybe reduced for mental health claims. And hey the police will probably get accused of being overly aggressive. Would you rather see instant extermination or a prison sentence? Personally I think the greater deterrent is death, but then some of these attackers are seeking martyrdom

[ummmm]

It may be, Naomi, but many crimes are not premeditated and probably won't be repeated.

[naomi24]

But some are...

[joeluke]

'Would you rather see instant extermination?'

Sounds good to me

We're far too soft in this country, where scum is involved shoot now ask questions later

[Olivio]

That's what the police did to Jean Charles de Menezes but unfortunately he wasn't scum but a hard working man in rush.

I do agree Joeluke as in a war there is always innocent casualties which are called something which escapes my mind at the moment. But the war on crime and terrorism has to be met with an iron fist, a hobnailed boot and MP5 bullet. Only then will the criminals know our place mean business but then we would also have to watch out for every criminal to arm themselves to the teeth and we'd start seeing more car jackings, kidnappings and other crazy stuff that you see on programs such as "Americas wildest police car chases and standoffs etc...

But a war is a war.

I hate war but we're directly in the middle of one.

[andy-hughes]

Olivio - //That's what the police did to Jean Charles de Menezes but unfortunately he wasn't scum but a hard working man in rush. //

And that is the problem right there.

Summary execution does not allow for the fact that the person in the gun sights may not actually be guilty of anything at all - as was the case there.

[mikey4444]

Never read such nonsense.

We seem to having a lot of weirdo threads today !

[anotheoldgit]

Olivio

/// I hate war but we're directly in the middle of one. ///

And I do since I have lived through a World War, but at least in those days we knew who the enemy were and not frightened to deal with them, in case it might upset some in this country.

Never once heard anyone ever say at that time, not all Germans, Italians and Japanese are bad.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - ///// I hate war but we're directly in the middle of one. ///

And I do since I have lived through a World War, but at least in those days we knew who the enemy were and not frightened to deal with them, in case it might upset some in this country.

Never once heard anyone ever say at that time, not all Germans, Italians and Japanese are bad. //

You know as well as I do that the two scenarios only have the tenuous and inaccurate use of the word 'war' to link them - in all other aspects they are completely different.

Neither Germany Italy or Japan had large numbers of citizens legally living and working in the UK among the population.

Furthermore, declarations of war were defined on individual nations politically, and formally, and do not equate with a terrorist system that operates from a stateless organisation.

So really, the comparison is invalid in my view.

[New Judge]

"...so murderers are incarcerated, often for the rest of their lives,..."

Not that often, Andy. In fact "whole life" sentences are incredibly rare - far more rare than outrageously savage or barbaric murders (which in my book is just about all of them).

Since 1983 about 100 Whole Life senences have been handed down (about three a year). In the same period the average annual murder rate in England and Wales (cannot find figures for the UK quickly) was well over 600. This means that considerably less than one murder in 200 sees a whole life sentence imposed.

Alas for the victims they are just as dead if they were killed in a "barbaric" way than if they were killed in a relatively civilised fashion. Murder (of any sort) should attract an automatic whole life sentence.