Who Says Crime Does Not Pay?

[youngmafbog]

I thought that the proceeds of crime were supposed to be confiscated these days. So how is this happening?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3748592/Convicted-drug-dealer-s-daughter-flashes-new-8-000-smile-wads-cash-streets-flooded-fake-Valium-pills.html

[EDDIE51]

To confiscate it you have to PROVE the cash is the proceeds of crime. Almost impossible with cash, the girl claims she had a casino win.

[youngmafbog]

Hmm, I guess so.

But where did the money for the 'gamble' come from?

[EDDIE51]

^ Casinos pay out cash without asking the punter's name . They will pay into a bank account but most people ask for cash. She could say she put money into a Jackpot fruit machine, casinos have machines that can pay out £50,000 for 1 spin. The casino will pay you in £50 notes no ID needed or asked for!

[cassa333]

It is not the daughters money that would be confiscated but the mothers.

But I bet you a pound to a penny that they haven't and probably won't get any money back because by the time they get round to it it will have disappeared somewhere.

How much the family has stashed away is anyone's guess but I would like to see this girl a year after she has frittered it away.

[Gromit]

Obviously the mother and the daughter are different people. The mother is a criminal and the daughter isn't. So the daughter should be subject to the mother's punishmenr.

[Peter Pedant]

so how is this happening ?

because we read the article and see that the daughter has not been convicted of a crime and they clearly have failed to show that any money has been passed onto her

In fact having been the wrong end of this (!)
once the assets recovery agency deems a property to be someone elses then you have to show that you have got title to it and in a lawful fashion. ( I did )


but you know YMF - keep on frothing !

[Gromit]

Dovebuddy,
Someone has to be captured after committing a crime, prosecuted and convicted. Then they are a criminal. Until that process has happened, any comment about, in this case the daughter, is heresay. There is a possiblity she is as dishonest as her mother, and there is a possibility she is a successful gambler. But without a conviction, it is impossible to say difinitively that she is one or the other.
If YOU are to make a judgement you need all the facts, which you do not have in this case. So you base your arguement on your prejudices such as scum breeds scum.

[Togo]

Being deliberately naïve doesn't refute youngmafbog's assertion that the means to purchase tooth veneers, and Audi cars, whilst posting pictures of wads of cash on soshall medear, came from illegal activities. It does though beggar the question, did plod ask which casinos and when. I am sure the said gambling dens would have coughed the info pretty rapid if threatened with laundering charges.

[sandyRoe]

There was a man in NI who had built up a sizeable property portfolio from his drug dealing business. He was eventually convicted and a repossession order was made. But he was allowed to keep two of his houses, one for himself and his family and one for his girlfriend.
Crime paid for him.