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AB Editor | 10:55 Thu 18th Aug 2016 | Society & Culture
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Interesting article from Vice, of all places.

"Meeting the Free Speech Crusaders Who Want to End Political Correctness"
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/young-british-heritage-society-launch

Abusive internet bullies gather around to talk about how their free speech is being impeded because no one wants to hear their vague and boring ideas.

What is it that makes them so entitled?

These are our society's current angry young men - is their limpness a sign of a strong society with few problems, or a sign of some of societal sickness?
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Didn't angry young men once rail against society's iniquities? Now it seems they are more likely to be targeting the weak and the vulnerable on social media. John Osborne must be spinning in his grave.
13:04 Thu 18th Aug 2016
....views which just happen to be racist, sexist and homophobic.....
Talking of trolls did anyone see 'celeb trolls: we're coming to get you last night at 10pm on Channel 5?
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"It does not distinguish between threats and sheer abuse" - please distinguish for me?

I did mention it was from VICE, so "gutter language" is somewhat expected. naturally, there are some who don't mind the gutter ideas being propagated, as long as they're presented nicely ;)
//....views which just happen to be racist, sexist and homophobic....//

Hey, Milo, did you hear that?
AB Editor, do you think that that free speech on campus is something to be defended, or do you agree with Mr. Kriss that boring conservatives should be shut up?
An ex member of here sent me a message on FB threatening to rape my children. In his words "I'm going to rape your pig ugly kids"

Now. this didn't bother me because I'm surrounded by men who would snuff him out with one hand but it did make me wonder how I'd feel if I was a lone parent without the network of support.

This is what Sam Kriss and AB Editor appear to support.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IawEMxTroBk
AB Editor, the only gutter ideas I see being propagated in that piece of nonsense come from the author. He clearly wouldn't recognise intellect if his life depended upon it.
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vetuste_ennemi - So those black lives matter protesters right to protest isn't ok, but it is okay to spread the kind of nonsense that Milo propagates?

I guess you're also saying that a gay person could express something homophobic? Bit of a silly position to take...

TBH, the free exchange of ideas on uni campuses is important and I mostly err on the side of letting anyone express anything they want. I don't think that the collection of online harassers that have set out on their crusade are interested in the same end goals that I am, however.
Khnadro - // ... by the narrow-minded and self-righteous, every time they open their mouths to put forward their views. //

Do such people populate debate sites?

Surely not!!!
This group has come in for some extraordinary criticism here - and as far as I can see it's unfounded. Perhaps a perusal of their website will help. Incidentally, it might come as a surprise, but the founder and chairman of the group is a British Muslim.

http://www.ybhs.co.uk/

//but the founder and chairman of the group is a British Muslim.//
I'm no sure if that is good news or bad !
//vetuste_ennemi - So those black lives matter protesters right to protest isn't ok, but it is okay to spread the kind of nonsense that Milo propagates?//

What a strange post. Two "protesters" violently disrupt a student meeting. They are not exercising a right; they are thugs. And that's not OK. Is it OK to to spread "the kind of nonsense that Milo propagates"? Yes. It's called free speech. Why are you suggesting these two things are equivalent?

Oh! they are Young Fogeys by a new name!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_fogey

Fascinating that they state that the basis of their argument is Magna Carta....I wonder if they have ever really read it.
"What was the long-term impact of Magna Carta?

Magna Carta is sometimes regarded as the foundation of democracy in England. In fact, most of its terms applied only to a small proportion of the population in 1215, and the implementation of the charter in subsequent centuries remained open to the interpretation of the courts.
Revised versions of Magna Carta were issued by King Henry III (in 1216, 1217 and 1225), and the text of the 1225 version was entered onto the statute roll in 1297. Magna Carta had limited the circumstances under which the King could raise money without the consent of the people. The 1225 version of Magna Carta had been granted explicitly in return for a payment of tax by the whole kingdom, and this paved the way for the first summons of Parliament in 1265, to approve the granting of taxation.

In the 17th century, opponents of King Charles I (1625-49) used Magna Carta to regulate the arbitrary use of royal authority. Sir Edward Coke, declared that ‘Magna Carta is such a fellow, that he will have no sovereign’, and in 1628 he helped to draft the Petition of Right, which limited royal power and made explicit reference to Magna Carta. When King Charles was himself put on trial in 1649, it was argued that his attempts to halt the proceedings contravened the clause of Magna Carta which prohibited the delay of justice.

Magna Carta has consequently acquired a special status as the cornerstone of English liberties. This is despite the fact that the vast majority of its clauses have now been repealed, or in some cases superseded by other legislation such as the Human Rights Act (1998). Magna Carta nonetheless retains enormous symbolic power as an ancient defence against arbitrary and tyrannical rulers, and as a guarantor of individual liberties.

- See more at: http://www.bl.uk/magna-carta/articles/magna-carta-an-introduction#sthash.SRXyvwkp.dpuf

Ed. I think you have the wrong end of the stick, these are not internet trolls spreading hatred, I believe the are people who are sick and tired of being accused of racism, sexism, and homophobia by the narrow-minded and self-righteous, every time they open their mouths to put forward their views.>.> well said i agree with you
Sorry, I forgot to address Ab Editor by name in my last post.

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