Why Shouldn't A Us Embassy Be Located In Jerusalem?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/754141/Assault-on-all-Muslims-Jerusalem-Grand-Mufti-Donald-Trump-s-US-embassy-Israel-Palestine

[THECORBYLOON]

ANOTHEOLDGIT, I agree but you are responsible for putting your case across clearly for poor simple souls such as I who lack your wit and wisdom...

[Zacs-Master]

AOG, I was chopping some kindling for the fire. So less of the insults.

You still haven't answered why you think opening a US embassy in Jerusalem is a good idea. Saying it would aid world peace is 100% contra to what it says in the article you posted and comparing it to Obama and Poland is completely irrelevant.

[-Talbot-]

Can someone explain why it isn't a good idea?

[Zacs-Master]

I think Corby (and myself) were particularly confused by:

Me:How will moving a US embassy to Jerusalem engender world peace?

You: That is not what I was suggesting, I said that it would be much better for World Peace

[Zacs-Master]

Talbot, have you read the article?

[Togo]

//Jerusalem is NOT the capital of Israel, but it is claimed by Palestine as its capital //

Under the latest resolutions in "talks" to be held in Paris by the UN and backed by Obama resolution 2334, effectively sets the boundaries of a future Palestinian state. The resolution declares all of Judea, Samaria and East Jerusalem -- home to the Old City, the Western Wall and the Temple Mount. So it wouldn't matter if the embassy was in Tel Aviv or Jerusalem then. There would be no Israel to have an embassy in. Geddit?

[naomi24]

Do we know that this report is accurate?

[Zacs-Master]

Good point Naomi. Looks like it might have been someone punching above their weight:
http://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-1.764898

[-Talbot-]

Yes Zacs but if an ABer could spell it out for me I would be very grateful.

[Zacs-Master]

Looks like it might have been a non story anyway Talbot but for me the reasons given in the article seem to portray the potential outrage this would cause.

[naomi24]

Until confirmed I'm inclined to think reports such as this are all part of the on-going witch hunt against Trump. Dirty tricks abound!

[Khandro]

King Solomon built the first Temple in Jerusalem in the 10th century BC.
Mohammad (the paedophile) was born in Saudi Arabia in 570 AD.

[THECORBYLOON]

From Jan 2016, 'Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump has vowed that if elected, he will move the American Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Such a move would essentially mean recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, something which the US has, until now, refused to do.

In an interview on the Christian Broadcasting Network (CBN), posted on Tuesday, Trump told interviewer David Brody, “They want it in Jerusalem. Well I am for that 100 percent. We are for that 100 percent.”'

He was in favour of it a year ago.

[atalanta]

Surely, if the Israeli government and Israeli people regard Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, and the Knesset ( Parliament) meets in Jerusalem, how can Jerusalem Not be the capital of Israel ?
Indeed, almost all embassies and Ambassadors to Israel are based in Tel Aviv. What is more, Embassy staff are discouraged from visiting the West Bank as such visits can be interpreted as recognition of Israeli sovereignty over the occupied area. But all that doesn't mean a country can't designate any bit it likes as a capital.
Not all of Jerusalem was Moslem before the 6 day war, by the way.

[Muntin]

What atalanta said at 20.07 about not all of Jerusalem being Muslim, or Palestinian, before 1967 is true. But the Jewish/Israeli parts were modern suburbs, and did not include the Holy Sites. I was there in 1964 and remember looking from the roof of a convent over to the Old City.
Let us hope that the report in Ha'aretz is correct. The status of Jerusalem/Al Quds is a red line for many in the middle east and could unite dissident and disparate factions. And that is why there are no embassies in Jerusalem.

[Togo]

//The status of Jerusalem/Al Quds is a red line for many in the middle east//

Why Muntin? Which disparate dissident factions? What do these "groups" fear the rest of the world being party to ?

[Muntin]

It is not so much 'groups' or 'factions', Togo, but larger Muslim populations. If you don't know that access to, and the status of, the Holy Sites and of the city itself are supremely important questions to many many people then I respectfully suggest you read around the subject a bit. The Palestinians have largely been left to get on with it since the creation of the state of Israel, building a U S Embassy in Jerusalem could be a status quo changer.