Why Are We So Keen To Continuously Show Aggression Towards Russia?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4133998/Ministers-secret-bid-block-Trump-Putin-pact.html

[douglas9401]

It's a secret, shhhh.

[Old_Geezer]

Perhaps because the country generally thinks Putin is not a person one can trust to do deals with ?

[vortex]

Aggression? I would say it is more a case of 'just hold on DT'.Have you really thought all this through?

Why is it ok for Russian vehicles to intimidate by air and sea? That's what I would call aggression.

We wouldn't want to be caught offguard would we?

[anotheoldgit]

Old_Geezer

/// Perhaps because the country generally thinks Putin is not a person one can trust to do deals with ? ///

Surely it makes sense to at least try, rather than continuously show Putin the red rag all the time?

Do you wish to see yet another 'cold war'?

[anotheoldgit]

vortex

/// Why is it ok for Russian vehicles to intimidate by air and sea? That's what I would call aggression. ///

And you don't class it as aggression, for the West to mass it's troops on Russia's border?

[vortex]

Putin may look slight and rumours of his health etc.Don't be fooled.Underneath that slight exterior is a chiselled face which cannot be penetrated with a pneumatic drill,a steely glare,a rock of hard muscle.

A man who can be trusted and do business with? Hmmm.

[vortex]

AOG,'If you prick me,do I not bleed'?

[anotheoldgit]

vortex

/// AOG,'If you prick me,do I not bleed'? ///

I really do not know, neither have I a wish to find out.

[vortex]

That was a reference to responding to Russia's antics.

[andy-hughes]

Just as a side line - can the Daily Mail not find any pictures of Donald Trump that don't make him look as though he has just been shot in the back with a poisoned arrow, or is it just that he is really not at all photogenic?

I know the Mail despises Mr Trump, but their images are uniformly of him looking as though he is in pain.

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

Not wishing to see the derailment of yet another thread, I could not possibly comment.

[vortex]

Andy Hughes,very good.I suspect when he takes office he will have a cornucopia of pained expressions when he sees his in-tray of complaints.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - //andy-hughes

Not wishing to see the derailment of yet another thread, I could not possibly comment. //

Obviously not my intention, but a fair point - I will start my own thread.

[Peter Pedant]

Putin has annexed Crimea ( no it wasnt his in the first place - it was the Crimean's who have all been deported to Gulags by er putins predecessor joe Stalin)

fiddled with the gas pipelines in Ukraine
sabre rattled in the Ukraine ( airliner bang ! bang ! it is raining women and children - that one )
sabre rattled in Poland
intervened in syria

and what was your question - do we want a cold war ?
we have one old boy ! we have one already

[ichkeria]

...invaded Georgia (not just the disputed territories of Abkhazia and South Ossetia but attacked the port of Poti on the Black Sea, which was situiated in Georgia "proper"
...destabilised, for many years, the Moslem region of Adjara in Georgia with false flag operations
...allowed their proxy forces in Ukraine to shoot down (mistakenly no doubt) a civilian airliner with a missile supplied by their army for the purpose
..launched cyber attacks on Lithuania and Estonia
..masterminded and carried out the largest known state-sponsored drug taking operation in history (probably exceeding E Germany's in range, if not in duration)
...murdered a British citizen of Russian background in London, leaving a potentially deadly trail across the capital (and indeed on at least two civilian aircraft)

And so on

You might just as well ask: "why are the police manhandling those unfortunate bank robbers" :-)

[ichkeria]

I don't know if you saw Alexander Dugin, Putin's Rasputin-like ultra-nationalist mouthpiece, being interviewed by John Sweeney on Panorama.
Dugin accused Sweeney and the west in general all of being "fascists" and when Sweeney asked him how many journalists had been murdered in the US under the presidency of Mr Obama, Dugin promptly got up and left.
A couple of hours later he had updated his blog, with a farcical rant against Mr Sweeney.
If you can be bothered ...
https://4threvolutionarywar.wordpress.com/2017/01/19/alexander-dugin-reveals-the-truth-behind-scandalous-bbc-film/

[sevenOP]

One answer is arms sales. { Middle East and all points West }

"Britain is now the second biggest arms dealer in the world"

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/britain-is-now-the-second-biggest-arms-dealer-in-the-world-a7225351.html

The largest arms dealer being the USA, Russia's most media dominant critic.

[Old_Geezer]

Not dealing with something is not the same as wanting a vastly deteriorated situation; it is hoping that clear disapproval may bring change that allows for more constructive dialogue in the future.