E U “It Is Difficult To See Any Alternative To The Continued Application Of The Common Fisheries Policy”.

[Samjenko]

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/feb/15/uk-fishermen-may-not-win-waters-back-after-brexit-eu-memo-reveals

[Zacs-Master]

Strange that of the 11000 or so people directly employed in fishing, half of them come from Scotland which voted remain. Anything to do with EU subsidies to buy new bigger boats and sustainable nets at all?

[-Talbot-]

Overall Scotland may have voted remain, that doesn't mean Scotland's fisherman voted remain.

[Togo]

//Britain’s fishing industry will need continued access to
European
markets if it is to thrive after
Brexit// ( From the link provided)

Alternatively.

"European consumers will need access to the British fishing industry markets if they want to continue eating the fish caught in British waters."

[Togo]

Here are the views of a very well known Scottish trawlerman from Perth. Jimmy Buchan's position is typical (he's no relation of Charles Buchan). He achieved national fame as the star of a BBC TV series, Trawlerman. When we meet on the dockside in Peterhead, he greets me with a cheerful grin, and friendly, avuncular manner. Yet he makes no attempt to hide his contempt for the regulations that the European Union enforces.
"Unelected bureaucrats who sit in Brussels don't care about local communities," he complains. "I've waited all my life for this EU referendum. I'm voting for Out."
And.
The various organisations that represent fishermen are not taking an official line, but all told me they thought that the majority of their members would be voting to leave.

[Gromit]

It would be interesting to know which is a greater in terms of catch and money,

30% of all EU waters
Or
100% of 13% of it.

Just tried to find the answer but can't, though fishmens organisations generally seem in favour of taking back our EEZ.

[Togo]

Scottish fishermen react to Brexit vote
Friday June 24th 2016 at 9:52 AM

One of Scotland’s most Eurosceptic industries has reacted to the UK vote to leave the European Union.
A poll ahead of the referendum from Aberdeen University showed 95% of fishermen across the UK would vote to leave the EU.
That’s after years of struggling with the European Commission on catch allocations for fishing stocks, and other Common Fisheries Policy measures like the landing obligation (or discards ban).
The Fishing for Leave campaign had argued a Brexit vote would mean the UK got a seat at the negotiating table for quota allocations, as Norway and the Faroe Islands do during discussion with the EU.
Bertie Armstrong, chief executive of the Scottish Fishermen’s Federation, said: “The result of the referendum brings both opportunities and challenges for the fishing industry and the Scottish Fishermen’s Federation will be doing everything in its power to ensure that the best possible deal is achieved for fishing during the exit negotiations.
“To aid this process, it is vital that we have clarity from both the UK and Scottish Governments on their future intentions for fishing.
“Our national governments must work closely with the industry over the coming months and years to ensure that the right framework is put in place to deliver a prosperous future.”

[Togo]

I know you like your links........especially when you don't agree with the content.

http://www.originalfm.com/scottish-fishermen-react-to-brexit-vote/

[Togo]

30% of all EU waters
Or
100% of 13% of it.

Where do you think the fish are? Where do you think it is easier to catch and process the fish? Does the EU have our interests at heart or their own? Let the scales fall from your eyes.

[Togo]

“in 2015 EU vessels caught 683,000 tonnes (£484m revenue) in UK waters and UK vessels caught 111,000 tonnes (£114m revenue) in member states’ waters”.

Another snippet from the OP link. But they continue to tell us that we need them more than they need us and charge us for the privilege. If they don't want to buy the fish I bet the Japanese, or Chinese, or Indians, or even the Koreans do.

[-Talbot-]

Gromit
It would be interesting to know which is a greater in terms of catch and money,

30% of all EU waters
Or
100% of 13% of it.
______________________



I'm lost ... can you tell us a bit more about your above figures?

It would be interesting to find out when the CFP was introduced.

[-Talbot-]

If from here ... https://inews.co.uk/explainers/iq/eu-referendum-brexit-mean-uks-fishing-industry/

Where did they get their figures from?

[EDDIE51]

The Common Fisheries Policy was originally introduced in the 1970's and has had many updates and alterations since.

[-Talbot-]

lol

It would also be interesting to know if the UK had shown interest in joining the EU just prior to the set up of the CFP

[AB Editor]

"Outside the EU, an EEZ extends 200 nautical miles (370km) off a country's coastline, giving the state the authority to exploit and control the fish resources within this zone."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36358016

I knew I had 200 miles in my head for some reason.

Quite possibly enforceable if the gov pulls their finger out and bring the Navy to true blue-water levels.

... Expensive though!

[Samjenko]

^Fantastic answer, ABed. Made my choice of BA dead easy, thank-you.

(snigger ;-))

[-Talbot-]

mmmmm creeping eh? ^


I would have thought political heavyweights like Gromit, Zacs and (cough) EDDIE would have instantly know the difference between CFP & EEZ but their early answers prove they didn't.
When I asked Gromit if he was sure about what he was saying the reason I asked was because I knew he was talking from his backside. But at least he sorta admitted his mistake unlike EDDIE who carries on regardless.

Zac posted ..
You mean you voted leave without knowing the answer to that Talbot?

Well despite knowing that we 'should' revert back to EEZ how on earth would I know the outcome of negotiations that will happen some time in the future?

SO can I ask ... did Gromit & EDDIE vote remain partly because UK fishing rights would be restricted to the various piers dotted around our coastline?

(neither provided a link to the 12 mile nonsense)

[EDDIE51]

I may be thick but once we leave the EU the CPF will still exist and its waters will be the same area. The only difference is that we will not be one of the nations that are allowed to fish in those waters? The same water can not be in our EEZ and at the same time part of the EU's CPF waters? I do not see what the outcome will be can someone explain?
Also how can we have a 200 mile EEZ when the Channel is only 30 miles wide and on the west coast we have Ireland a lot less than 200 miles away. In the North we have Norway a lot closer than 200 miles from the most northern Shetland Islands? (which are part of the UK)
I am genuinely puzzled as to how it will work if we leave both the EU and the CFP can anyone explain it?