Oh Dear, Remoaners Defeated.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/776076/Article-50-Bill-House-of-Lords-second-EU-referendum-amendment-defeated-Brexit-vote

House of Lords vote down calls for second referendum 336 votes to 131.

[Islay]

I Think you will find there is a spelling error in your title I think you mean remainers?

[sp1814]

'Remoaners'

(Sigh).

[anotheoldgit]

No I think that the Express's headline got it right:

/// REMOANERS DEFEATED: Government BEATS pro-Remain peers' demand for SECOND Brexit referendum ///

[Islay]

I think that you don't want a debate you just want to wind people up by writing deliberate question titles.

[Gromit]

// I think that the Express's headline got it right. Government BEATS pro-Remain peers //

No. The Express really cocked-up the headline.

Peers in the House of Lords voted against it, not the Government.
The Government consists of Conservative Party parliamentary members. The amendment was introduced by cross party Peers and was defeated by cross party peers.

[New Judge]

This is utter nonsense.

Nobody who proposes this second referendum has thought through the consequences (or, since they are exclusively Remainers, perhaps they have). What exactly is supposed to happen if the referendum rejects the deal? Are we supposed to remain until an acceptable deal is put to the public? The same question needs to be put to those seeking a Parliamentary agreement to the deal. What happens if it is rejected? The answer should be that we leave regardless because my Lord Newby’s statement does not stack up:

“Theresa May is driving Britain towards a hard Brexit which wasn’t on the ballot paper and which no one voted for.”

No it wasn’t on the ballot paper. Neither was a “soft” Brexit or any other sort of Brexit. The question was leave or remain. The answer was given and leave we must. To suggest we should somehow remain if we cannot do a “deal” is utterly absurd. People who voted to leave voted to leave. They did not vote to leave provided it did not cause too much inconvenience.

[Old_Geezer]

Good that the majority of the upper house saw the problem and voted appropriately then.

[New Judge]

But I note that they are about to vote in favour of giving Parliament (effectively) a veto on the UK's departure.