What Are Your Views On The Death Penalty ?(As The 'last Meal' Question Has Gone Off Topic)

[EDDIE51]

As the 'Final Meal' question has gone 'off topic' I am taking the opportunity to ask the question.
I will restate my view that it can never be justified no matter what the circumstances.

[douglas9401]

Eeee, some reet good 5th year common room stuff on 'ere.

My view is that it should be available for judges to deal with as they see fit in cases of extreme violence.

[mikey4444]

Dougie...if that was the case, wouldn't the "Guildford Four" and the "Birmingham Six" now be dead ?

[EDDIE51]

Very good link here
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2011/jan/13/open-prison-no-holiday-camp
Sqad Thanks, your link is helpful, but as you know a 'High dependency psychiatric unit' is not a prison even if it is part of the prison system.
To those who have no knowledge of prison life, there is TV in the cells but it is a privilege' you have to pay for it out of your 'canteen' allowance.Which means less to use for extra food, sweets, magazines , newspapers, phone calls and tobacco ( 80% of prisoners smoke against less than 20% of the general population). As a privilege it can be removed for breach of the rules, so it helps maintain discipline, no prison officer I have spoken to would want to work in a jail with no TV for the inmate's, life is hard enough as it is!

[Sqad]

Eddie...yes I appreciate the difference and should have made it clearer.

[Chris38]

I have never been a supporter of the death penalty and would find it utterly impossible to ask someone to carry out something which I could never carry out myself. Nevertheless, those who have been grievously wronged by a murderer must receive justice and satisfaction. We deny victims the right to seek satisfaction in person and insist that this is the prerogative of the justice system imposed by the state. There must be a way to resolve this - the present system is so often hopelessly inadequate.

[EDDIE51]

Thanks sqad, there is a psychiatric hospital just up the road from me , it is one step down from the high security units such as the one you mentioned. They are looking for staff at the moment , in fact they are always looking for staff, I am thinking about applying.

[Khandro]

I'll put it this way; At least 84 people were killed, including more than 10 children, and many more injured with life-changing wounds, after a lorry driven by an Islamist slammed through a crowd celebrating Bastille Day in the southern French city of Nice.

Why does this man deserve to be allowed his life, when he has taken that of so many?

[mikey4444]

Think hard Eddie, and then say no !

[EDDIE51]

Thanks Mikey that is how I am thinking. I know someone who worked there for years, he used to say it was the one job he had where 'getting stabbed in the back' was more than just a metaphorical problem!

[mikey4444]

Eddie....my Mothers second husband was a Prison Warder, and he always said (in unguarded moments, at least ) how much he hated the job. But he was ex Royal Navy and didn't know what else he could do.

The very thought of locking people up all the time ( even though I had to ) would do me head in.

[cassa333]

My dad was a prison officer for more than 35 years in cat A and B prisons and when the cons were 'getting ready' to move to lower category prisons had work release programs. I often came home from school to a couple of lifers in the sitting room watching cricket and eating an egg Banjo mum had made.

They were without exception ((I imagine because of fear of slipping back)) always very polite and respectful. In some respects quite frightened by us bumbling in and chatting about the day we had.

However that is an aside to my own opinion on the death penalty.

There are some crimes that are so heinous and adherent that, in my opinion, the death penalty is the only one that should be given. If the criminal has so little regard for life then theirs has no value, other than perhaps to teach society that what they have done is not acceptable.

The perception that prison is a holiday camp has come about I thinks because they are fed better than people in hospital, have more activities and pastimes than those in care homes and learning opportunities that universities would envy. All paid for by the happy tax payer.

However take away the things other people have to work blooming hard for and it makes life for the officers much harder. So there is a trade off.