Are There Any Re-Leavers Among Us?

[Khandro]

Anyone thought twice about it?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/15/two-thirds-voters-now-support-brexit/

[jim360]

I'm not saying that people *will* change their minds. I'm just saying that there's not really any reason to do so *now*. It's a very bold person who commits themselves to one opinion for all time, even in the face of circumstances that may very change drastically... Still, to each their own. I doubt I'll ever change my mind either, if it comes to that, but I at least *might* if Brexit works out, the EU fails etc etc etc.

(For the record to those who can't access the link, the two-thirds figure quoted comes from taking all people who support Leave (45%) and adding to that the 23% of people who voted Remain but believe that Brexit should now happen as a result of the referendum; the remainder is split between 9% "don't knows" and 22% of people who would rather the referendum result were overturned; hence only half of Remainers now support Leaving by the Telegraph's definition. Also it should be acknowledged that YouGov, the source of this poll, put things in the same language, so this isn't the Telegraph attempting to mislead per se.

See also https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/l094qb1ds4/InternalResults_170508_Releavers_W.pdf . There's some amusement to be had from the second and third columns in particular.)

[naomi24]

Jim, I don't think the headline necessarily relates to people who have changed their minds, but rather to those who accept and are, hence, willing to support the result of a democratic referendum.

[jim360]

Actually there's another amusing little snippet: of the 5248 people who took part in this poll, 217 (weighted sample) intend to vote UKIP; 5% of those (ie 10 people) apparently checked the option marked "I don't support leaving the EU and the Government should ignore the result". About 100 Tory Supporters are in the same boat.

Which is... interesting. I can't say I get why you'd support UKIP while being a "Hard Remainer"...

[EDDIE51]

I voted 'remain' and still believe that is the correct option, but I support leaving as it is the view of the majority. I still don't believe it is correct and I can't see me changing my mind.
The 'Torygraph' story is intentionally misleading!

[ichkeria]

Should a "re-leaver" not be someone who voted "Leave" and would do so again :-)
Then there are those tho voted "remain" and would do so again.
Those who voted "Leave" and would now vote "remain"
Those who voted "remain" and would now vote "leave"
Those who voted "remain" and want the result overridden" (that's me, for example)
Thoser who voted "remain" and would do so again but are happy for the govt to plough on with "leave"
And so on.
We could think of amusing names for all of those no doubt :-)

[Khandro]

ichi; //Those who voted "Leave" and would now vote "remain"//

I really can't imagine that there are many (or indeed any) of them.

[jim360]

Well, you're in luck, Khandro, as the poll provides that information for you: 92% of Leave voters would stick with their decision through-and-through; 5% apparently don't know any more; and only 1% want the result overturned now. In the same way, about 92% of Remain voters appear to still want to vote remain, with those people split as to whether or not to just accept the result and get on with it.

Of course, maybe those Regrexiters reported in the poll are just having us on -- but the general point is that the overwhelming majority of people are sticking to their position from last June. It's just that some Remain supporters are also pragmatists, or realists, or something along those lines.

[murraymints]

oot oot oot ! still !

[naomi24]

Jim, //It's just that some Remain supporters are also pragmatists, or realists//

I'd say that applies more appropriately to the Brexiters. ;o)

[Togo]

True Naomi, we Brexiters were pragmatists and realists(particularly realists)well before the referendum. It is comforting to note that more have had the scales fall from their eyes. :))

[trt]

Yes, me definitely, and let Scotland stay!

[webbo3]

I voted out and would do it again in a heartbeat.

Dave.

[-Talbot-]

The powers that be in the EU have convinced me I was wrong and need to think again.

http://news.sky.com/video/english-is-losing-importance-in-europe-10864016

The gracious way they have handled this affair has humbled me.

[naomi24]

I saw that. Pathetic.

[jim360]

What's pathetic about it?

[naomi24]

Nothing dignified about sour grapes, Jim.

[Kromovaracun]

I voted Remain. If, hypothetically, there were another referendum, I'd vote Remain again because my opinion of Europe has not changed. However I think even trying to change course now would have even more disastrous consequences for the UK, so promising to redo the referendum would not win a vote from me.

I do not, however, "support Brexit" and think Theresa May's govt is taking an unnecessarily self-destructive and irresponsible attitude towards it.