Weʼre Raising £35,000 To Help Recently Orphaned Alice, (5) And Jack, (6) Return To The Uk.

[naomi24]

I hope no one minds me posting this here, but it’s a truly horrendous story and a dreadful situation for this family to be in. If you can help please do – and if you have a Facebook account or can think of any other way of sharing the story, please share.

https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/jack-and-alice

Thanks.

[gness]

Oh blow that, Naomi! You've posted.....you will get some who make a donation.....that'll help a bit.....and if three or four of us tell three or four more so much the better...

Tell you what....let's ignore the negative comments....x

[naomi24]

gness, their mother is a murderess - she's in prison.

[naomi24]

//you will get some who make a donation//

That was my hope.

[gness]

Naomi....did you miss my question mark? I may not have been clear enough......I was asking those who say they are not orphans if they really think those children should stay with that mother....I certainly don't.

Everything that can be done should be done to bring them to the family who will care for them and raise them well.....their dad's family.....x

[hc4361]

I never said I didn't want to give - I was just trying to clarify confusing details.

[gness]

I know, Hc.....but your comment was answered......and the answer sits fine with me......we are all different....
I just can't imagine two happy little children having their lives changed in an instant in this horrific way....

And I'm soft enough to think....you know.....we've been told about this now and we can help.....just a little....x

[naomi24]

gness, The mother wasn't given custody of them when the couple divorced. I don't know how Chinese law works, but a mother who's done what she's done doesn't sound like a fit person to care for them anyway - even if she wasn't in prison.

[gness]

I know, Naomi......I read all your link.

Apart from not wishing the mother to have anything to do with the children I wouldn't be happy to think of them with any of her family......the brother took the children....they are being used now as a bargaining tool.

They need to be brought to their grandparents whether or not they are British or orphans......x

[naomi24]

Yes, they do.

[pastafreak]

If the children's father was British, do they not have dual citizenship? My daughter does.

[ummmm]

Why does it cost so much?

[bednobs]

im also really confused about the situation - the children are chinese and have lived in china ?all their life. How will coming here and living with a relative be any better than staying there and living with a relative? Surely bringing them to the uk will be incredibly scary and not the same culture or language etc. What a horrible situation, but if there is going to be a custody battle, even if he wins, will the uk accept them?

[Peter Pedant]

erm sorry losing one parent makes you an orphan

"Orphan definition, a child who has lost both parents through death, or, less commonly, one parent" - I think it might have been loosened to make entry to orphanages easier

why is it so expensive ? it sounds as tho wei wei fu's family is trying to sell the kids to the English - and that is OK by the chinese family so long as the price is right - with a lot of hand wringing from the English side

[naomi24]

I don't know all the answers but I do know that these children and their grandfather, who is a friend of someone I know very well, are in a truly awful situation. Thanks to those who have responded helpfully. I'm going to request this thread be removed now.