Grenfell Tower Fire: Government Staff Sent Into Kensington And Chelsea Council

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40316812

At last...some action that will actually help.

[sunny-dave]

True enough, Hans - but the whole point of disaster planning is that you have a plan - it seems sadly obvious that at local/regional/national level that wasn't the case.

Given the ongoing terrorist emergencies, I would have expected that (even if Kensington was overwhelmed) then either at London or National level there would be some contingencies in place for an event of this magnitude.

I am seriously concerned about my second point though - some individuals and some organisation(s) are eventually going to be held responsible for this tragedy - it is imperative that history isn't being tampered with before an inquiry is even set up.

[Garaman]

Exactly, sunny-dave, there should be a disaster plan. We should be able to get a crisis management team together in less than 24 hours, and we shouldn't be expecting local councils to be able to manage such large disasters.

[gness]

Hans.....have you seen how quickly our hospitals get staff in to deal with emergencies?

[mushroom25]

// I am seriously concerned about my second point though - some individuals and some organisation(s) are eventually going to be held responsible for this tragedy - it is imperative that history isn't being tampered with before an inquiry is even set up. //

you can be sure that anything that might prove the culpability of anyone in officialdom will already be long gone – much in the way that incriminating documents were disappeared after the killing of David Wilkie.

[Peter Pedant]

in case people dont immediately click

Wilkie was killed when a concrete block was dropped on him
Hancock and Shankland convicted of murder later reduced to manslaughter

Kin Howells ( Dr - PhD) destroyed al the docs at NUM headquarters
but this doesnt have been thought in any way causative or contributory

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_David_Wilkie

The parallel I would draw would be to the secretive police division infiltrating leftie organisations - and giving them babies on a part time basis - see Herne Report
http://www.derbyshire.police.uk/Documents/About-Us/Herne/Operation-Herne---Report-1---Covert-Identities.pdf

[conclusion - they made mistakes but only little ones ! hur hur hur]

and when the secretive division was disbanded ( for indiscipline) - it was SO secret that no records were retained - so no one would know what happened

Game over you might think - BUT retired secret policemen came forward and said that they were given orders to smash the hard drives. and that was so odd and counter intuitive - they didnt smash the drives but took them home instead

(happened to me in the NHS but the tidy NHS administrator WOULDN'T sign a document telling me to destroy documents but insisted his telephone instruction was sufficient)

[cassa333]

For Funks Sake local counsils SHOULD have an emergency proceedure for many different scenarios. You have to give them a chance to actually do it before you can parachute a government team in. Which TM did when it became apparent the K&C council weren't coping.

I would really like to slap the people who keep harping on that she doesn't care because she doesn't go around weeping and wailing and hugging everyone in site. Get this... IT ISNT HER STYLE. By which I mean it isn't her nature to be demonstrative. That DOES NOT mean she doesn't care.

[naomi24]

gness, //If Theresa May herself is saying that not enough was done to help the families of the victims I'm not sure why we should be saying....Well done, Mrs May....//

She acknowledges that insufficient was done initially, and she is now making a positive effort to address the failings of the local council which is actually a very good idea – but let’s keep putting the boot in, shall we?

[Davemano]

People on here who are anti Mrs May will just harp on whatever she does.

[Peter Pedant]

lets keep on putting the boot in ?

well yeah - there ARE 70 deaths to explain
and completely avoidable

that is three times as many deaths from Manchester and London Bridge and my god you should hear the squawking over interning 20 000 and various measures known not to work

so No - NOT well done Mrs May

[gness]

Naomi.....I have expectations of national government.........now, in your blinkered world, voicing those expectations and questioning why they have not been met is "putting the boot in"....but not in my world...x

[anneasquith]

Just as a little aside Naomi( no politics involved) but the more you post, the more vindictive some of you're replies are, and please don't ridicule Peter, non of us know anyone's health issues,NB I have no wish to discuss my post with you .

[Mamyalynne]

I'm just glad extra help has been sent in.

[naomi24]

gness, let me put it this way. My allegedly ‘blinkered world’ thankfully allows me to recognise a witch hunt when I see it.

anneasquith, since you don’t want to discuss your post I won’t bother to ask you what you’re talking about.