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Pressure Grows On No 10 To Scrap Public Sector Pay Cap
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Some light at the end of the tunnel at last perhaps ?
Some light at the end of the tunnel at last perhaps ?
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Islay, you have my sympathy, I retired from the Civil Service 18 months ago and my last increase was just over £2 a month. Not much incentive is it? Trouble is, you mention you're a Civil Servant and a lot of people go on about our "gold plated pension" getting us lowly ones slightly confused with the salaries and pensions of the bigwigs in Whitehall. I wish.
I was medically retired from the civil service when I was 40 - in 2004. I was one of the lucky ones to get a final pay pension under the original scheme. They were about to change it all when I left.
It is not easy to obtain medical retirement and it took well over a year between medicals and interviews.
Morale has hit rock bottom in DWP and I am glad that I escaped - just as they are glad that they got rid of me.
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Islay: You'll be pleased to know I'm in the process of cashing in my CSP. It's been a nightmare. Started on April 7 and it took four letters for them to correctly amend my address. Three following letters were then sent by them to an old address of mine. It takes on average a week to reply to an email and two weeks to respond to a letter, even sent recorded delivery. I'll be back at it tomorrow.
Some in the private sector have done well with salaries outpacing inflation, but may self employed or employed workers in the private sector have had pay freezes (not unususal for peopel to have had no rises for 5 years), and have seen their defined benefit pension (final/career average salary) scrapped and replaced by expensive DB schemes .
Pensioners have done better (although often from a worse starting position) thanks to the triple lock.
Even theose on benefits have had some protection although some have lost out due to befeits cap, changes to DLA and bedroom tax.
Public sector staff have had a 1% cap , plus annual increments worth around 3-5% in around half of cases; and they have had pension contributions increased by around 3% but they at least still have final/career average salary pensions.
The bottom line is that the public sector have not done too badly compared to many in the private sector, but many at the top of their scale must feel frustrated after years of restraint if they are unavle to obtain promotions.
I think the cap should be loosened in the public sector but only on case by case basis where it can be justified due to shortages.
But what is affordable? An extra 1% woild cost a lot but would it really be noticeable to the public sector workers- particularly if taxes also have to go up to fund it. To make a difference we may need to give maybe 3% extra this year- which would costs a fortune, amd may lead to job losses as councils/schools/ hospitals have to cut staffing to fund the higher salaries.
I'd be interested to know how much Mikey would like to give by way of an increase
Pensioners have done better (although often from a worse starting position) thanks to the triple lock.
Even theose on benefits have had some protection although some have lost out due to befeits cap, changes to DLA and bedroom tax.
Public sector staff have had a 1% cap , plus annual increments worth around 3-5% in around half of cases; and they have had pension contributions increased by around 3% but they at least still have final/career average salary pensions.
The bottom line is that the public sector have not done too badly compared to many in the private sector, but many at the top of their scale must feel frustrated after years of restraint if they are unavle to obtain promotions.
I think the cap should be loosened in the public sector but only on case by case basis where it can be justified due to shortages.
But what is affordable? An extra 1% woild cost a lot but would it really be noticeable to the public sector workers- particularly if taxes also have to go up to fund it. To make a difference we may need to give maybe 3% extra this year- which would costs a fortune, amd may lead to job losses as councils/schools/ hospitals have to cut staffing to fund the higher salaries.
I'd be interested to know how much Mikey would like to give by way of an increase
Scooping you can throw as many articles as you want at me - I can only tell you facts!
Fact 1, I have not had a 1% payrise ever, as I said £2 a month this year is my payrise.
Fact 2 Final salary pensions have not existed for some time.
Fact 3 I pay a large % of my salary into the pension scheme.
Fact 4 there is no way I will finish on your earlier figure of £45000 even after 42 years!
Fact 1, I have not had a 1% payrise ever, as I said £2 a month this year is my payrise.
Fact 2 Final salary pensions have not existed for some time.
Fact 3 I pay a large % of my salary into the pension scheme.
Fact 4 there is no way I will finish on your earlier figure of £45000 even after 42 years!
Thanks for confirming one of my points, mikey. The public sector have done better than many, like you, in the private sector. (I'm a bit of both and have felt the squeeze too but have sought opportunities to take on extra or negotiate better terms. It would be nice if everyone (private, public, pensioner, not working) could have had above inflation rises but for whatever reason the uK and world economy hasn't made that easy.
How much increase would you want the public sector to get, mikey?
How much increase would you want the public sector to get, mikey?
The Big Beast has joined the fray !
Boris Johnson joins calls to end public sector pay cap
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Boris Johnson joins calls to end public sector pay cap
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Part of the problem was that the pubic sector got in front of the private sector. It's wrong to say the private sector has had pay increases when in actual fact many have not.
However, I am now of the opinion we need to remove this pay cap in order to give the economy a boost. The Government can no longer use things like interest rates because they are so low meaning an injection of cash is a good way forward. As the pay cap has been in place for some time it would be a good move politically too. Maybe the cap should not be removed but significantly increased.
For public sector workers I would like to see regional pay scales. Someone working in the North will have far more disposable income than someone living in the South or South East for doing the same job. (I deliberately excluded London). This needs addressing.
However, I am now of the opinion we need to remove this pay cap in order to give the economy a boost. The Government can no longer use things like interest rates because they are so low meaning an injection of cash is a good way forward. As the pay cap has been in place for some time it would be a good move politically too. Maybe the cap should not be removed but significantly increased.
For public sector workers I would like to see regional pay scales. Someone working in the North will have far more disposable income than someone living in the South or South East for doing the same job. (I deliberately excluded London). This needs addressing.
When I was on secondment with BT, up in Town in the late 80's, people told me that the extra that they got paid all went into huge travel costs of getting back and forth to work.
Although the Telephone Exchange where I worked was at the rear of Harrods, nobody lived in Central London and most people took at least 2 train journeys to get to work every day and 2 back in the evening. You can imagine the cost.
At home here in Swansea, it took about 20 mins to drive into work.
Although the Telephone Exchange where I worked was at the rear of Harrods, nobody lived in Central London and most people took at least 2 train journeys to get to work every day and 2 back in the evening. You can imagine the cost.
At home here in Swansea, it took about 20 mins to drive into work.
All this "advice" form her Ministers is falling on deaf ears it would seem ::::::
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None so deaf as those that won't hear, it appears. Nurses to get only 1% this year.
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None so deaf as those that won't hear, it appears. Nurses to get only 1% this year.
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