Jersey Abuse Inquiry: Children 'still At Risk'

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-40485015

Yet another case of children being abused and neglected, on an institutional scale.

[sunny-dave]

About par for the course for this tin-pot island of nazi collaborators and tax evaders.

We should have cleansed the Augean Stables there long ago, or set it adrift from our coat-tails to founder on its own.

[mikey4444]

Dave...the difficulty is that it hasn't just happened in Jersey.

In Wales and in NI, abuse of children was rife.
Rochdale had child abuse galore, long before the Muslim taxidrivers got involved, at the tender mercies of Cyril Smith.

I would go as far as to say that this kind of thing was happening all over Britain, in every borough, and I am not at all sure it still isn't happening now.

By the way, Jimmy Savile was investigated, in regards to the Haut de la Garenne children's home.

[sunny-dave]

I agree Mikey - I wasn't ignoring the general problem - just that the chances of the corrupt States of Jersey ever doing anything to sort out the problem there are on a par with the proverbial snowball in hell.

[mikey4444]

I think that now the Report is published, that something will change...at least I hope so. Such wickedness.

[sunny-dave]

I wouldn't bet on it, Mikey - Machiavelli was a novice compared to some of the characters in power there ...

[emmie]

there is talk of pulling it down, i wonder what that will achieve.

[mikey4444]

Emmie....I seem to remember that the place was dug up a few years ago, looking for the remains of missing children

[emmie]

there was no conclusive evidence at the time, perhaps if it was pulled down it might give some of the victims a certain satisfaction but i sincerely doubt it.

[anneasquith]

This investigation has taken 3 years, ? Dreadful .

[mikey4444]

Yet more bad news ::::

Sex abuse was covered up at cadet forces, Panorama finds

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40457123

[Peakwalker]

https://youtu.be/lq6lJsBz9UY
This is a real eye opener, but may disturbing for some

[scooping]

It is not an island of Nazi collaborators. First because many on Jersey were not born at the time or were children and, second, because many who now work there are not from Jersey.
More importantly, many lost their lives opposing German occupation. The rest did their best (with no help from mainland UK) to survive for the sake of their families. I have no doubt that had the Nazis occupied some or all of the mainland, Brits would have behaved no better, or worse, than the islanders. It remains, thank goodness, a question we can only hypothecate. But, if we look at France, Scandinavia or the Low Countries, it would not be unreasonable to assume that we would have behaved in a roughly similar manner. Who are you to condemn the islanders?

[-Talbot-]

Children are still at risk. Many people think that because it has been on the news and people have been jailed it has been dealt with but that is far from the truth.
Take Greater Manchester for instance ... a fourfold increase

146 cases of child sexual exploitation offences in 2013 ... 714 in 2016

[mikey4444]

I am not sure of the anti-Jersey comments either.

But according to Wiki, Jersey now has a population of
about 100,000. When you consider that this abuse went on for 60/70 years, its a wonder that in such a small population, that so many kids could have been at risk in the first place.

I went to Jersey for a long May weekend in 1990.

While I enjoyed my weekend ( I arrived by a small private plane, flown by a BT colleague that wanted to keep his flying hours up ! I did wonder exactly what the fuss was about. It was no different to parts of Cornwall or Devon, albeit with wonderful food.

On a tour of Mont Orgueil Castle, I made the big mistake of, quite innocently, asking about collaboration with the Nazis during WW2.

It was akin to farting in chapel.

[mikey4444]

Panorama- Cadet abuse cover-up.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08xgvqn/panorama-cadet-abuse-coverup

I have just watched this on the iplayer. I am not in any way surprised that abuse of kids happened in the Cadet Forces. Its happened in every institution in the country...Scouts, Church, etc. Its caused by the easy availability of vulnerable kids, and a culture of cover ups.

But every time these scandals are aired by the media, various upstanding people tell us that :::

"We are dreadfully sorry"

"That it all happened years ago"

"And it can't happen now"

But the last few mins of the Panorama program was a shock. ( 44:06)

Its now apparent that in the last 5 years, 300 allegations of sexual abuse in the Cadet Forces have been reported and 99 instructors have been dismissed.

So who will now believe any Government Minister, who says that it can't happen now ?

[albaqwerty]

abuse has happened, I'm sorry to say that I think it still will happen (and is happening now)

'lessons will be learned' no doubt, but does anyone actually act on those lessons learned from enquiries?

[mikey4444]

Alba....there is every indication that nobody acts at all ! Corruption goes to the very top of most of these institutions.

If I were a parent, and had a child in any of these at-risk organisations, I would now be very worried, and I speak as someone that has always supported the Scouts, for the good work that they do.