Yet More Smuggled Into The Uk, No Let's Get It Right Into England.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4685064/Inside-truck-used-smuggle-22-people-UK.html

Not a mention of sending them back.

/// Following his initial arrest, Cierniak was bailed pending further investigation, but failed to report as required to Colchester Police Station. ///

/// CFI officers obtained a European Arrest Warrant and on May 23, 2017, Cierniak was arrested by police officers in Italy. ///

/// He was extradited to the UK and remanded in custody. ///

"Failed to report" now there's a surprise!!!

When are we going to get a back bone? He should have been remanded in the first place

[Mamyalynne]

Yes, you're right - they should have kept hold of him in February 2016.

It was obviously well planned on his part.

[Zacs-Master]

looks like we have got a backbone as the report goes on to say:
'CFI officers obtained a European Arrest Warrant and on May 23, 2017, Cierniak was arrested by police officers in Italy.
He was extradited to the UK and remanded in custody.
Cierniak, of no fixed UK address, admitted the offence at Chelmsford Crown Court on Monday.
He will be sentenced on Thursday.

What more would you like done?

[albaqwerty]

In which country will he be serving his sentence?

[Barsel]

He should have been remanded at the time. What happened to the 22 Afghan people he brought into this country?

[anotheoldgit]

/// What more would you like
done? ///

That is obvious to anyone with a brain, for him to be held in custody from the offset.

How much time, money and resources did it take to trace him to Italy, and then bring him back here?

In fact we are lucky that he didn't disappear altogether, and remain free to carry on with his people smuggling trade.

[Zacs-Master]

Unfortunately the law has to consider that dreaded phrase 'human rights' when considering bail applications:

The law relating to bail applications is governed by Article 5 of the European Convention on Human Rights. The basic principle contained within Article 5 is that an accused must always be released pending their trial unless the prosecuting authorities can show there are “relevant and sufficient” reasons to justify their continued detention (this is commonly known as “the presumption in favour of bail”).

Look like he might have had an unusually smart duty solicitor on his side.

[trt]

And more here......

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4682726/Sikh-gang-helped-69-Afghan-illegal-migrants-UK.html

[Zacs-Master]

Really no need for the 'half a brain' comment AOG. If you'd done a little research you'd have found out the same info as | did.

[albaqwerty]

The law is an ass.

When/if we leave the EU, can we just ignore that law and remand suspected nasties until their trial?

[Mamyalynne]

//How much time, money and resources did it take to trace him to Italy, and then bring him back here? //


Good question , there may be a way to find out - someone may know.

[Zacs-Master]

Alba, No. The ECHR protects the human rights of people in countries that belong to the Council of Europe, which is a completely different organisation to the EU

[Zacs-Master]

Obviously, if we leave the CoE, hopefully we can redress the balance, but last i heard, we aren't.

[albaqwerty]

aah, I see, thanks Zacs,
Really should have read your answer more thoroughly, apologies.

[jno]

if we leave the CoE

Papist dog

[Zacs-Master]

erm....ok.

[Old_Geezer]

One might have hoped a high expectation of absconding would be a good reason to refuse bail.

[EDDIE51]

AOG, Remember that all the information we have suggests that well under 10% of smuggled immigrants get caught. So for every one caught and in the news there are at least 10 that have got in and are not in the news!

[ummmm]

How do you know that, Eddie?

[jim360]

I'm sure that eddie found that through his usual standard of research.