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Advice needed please. The Police want to give my 11 year old son a caution for a Racially Aggravated public Order Offence. Details of the incident are; My son was in his local park with a group of friends of similar age watching and discussing You Tube videos/vines. During his conversation with his friends he was asked and he repeated 'have you seen the Allah Akbar Drop the bomb sponge bob square pants vine' We were called into the police station and my son was questioned under caution. Apparantly a lady in the park overheard what was being said, took offence and reported it to the police, she had taken a photograph of my son and now the police want to I with a caution which will be a criminal record. My son had no idea the lady was in the park, he explained to the police office he didn't know hat it meant and the police officer had to tell him. My son is 11 years old with Autism and Global learning difficulties. I really don't think my son has done anything wrong to warrant such a caution being issued. I am asking for advice as I don't know what will happen if we refuse the caution and take it further to the courts?? His statement was completely innocent, it was not aimed at anyone, it was not said with intent to cause harm and he was completely unaware any one was around. Do he police have enough evidence?? Thank you in advance. Poor and desperate cant afford legal advice and the clock is ticking. THANK YOU for any advice.
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Let’s have a look at the law. I imagine the police are thinking of Section 5 of the Public Order Act. It says this (and I’ve left out bits that do not seem relevant from what you’ve told us): Harassment, alarm or distress. (1) A person is guilty of an offence if he— (a) uses threatening or abusive words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or (b) [not...
12:20 Wed 23rd Nov 2016
Hi Everyone, you have all been brilliant, I cant thank you enough for your advice and support. I will keep you updated on progress. unfortunately we think we were offered legal representation, my husband cant remember as it was he that remained with my son when he was being questioned under caution. he was blind sided somewhat, thinking that we would only get a telling off!! So, we are now just waiting to see what happens now. Having informed the Youth Offending Team that we are not accepting the Caution. THANK YOU to you all and I wish I could have more than one 'Best Answer'
This is the impact that years of left-wing hysteria has had on the police. Frightened of being accused of being racist they are even prepared to give a child a criminal Caution for a racially aggravated offence rather than tell the complainant the reality that the comment doesn't even amount to racial discrimination let alone an aggravated public order offence.
"'have you seen the Allah Akbar Drop the bomb sponge bob square pants vine'"
Barely religiously offensive but not racially.
The police certainly needs to be robustly challenged over this nonsense
"'have you seen the Allah Akbar Drop the bomb sponge bob square pants vine'"
Barely religiously offensive but not racially.
The police certainly needs to be robustly challenged over this nonsense
I also think that this woman taking clandestine pictures of children in the park should be questioned - a possible paedophile (or agent for one) ?
Issue a formal complaint to the police on this, and they'll probably see sense. If it went to court, your defence could go to town on this witness in this respect I would have thought. What do you think NJ ?
Issue a formal complaint to the police on this, and they'll probably see sense. If it went to court, your defence could go to town on this witness in this respect I would have thought. What do you think NJ ?
Hi Guys, I have been desperate to update this post.
The Police wanted to issue a caution for aggravated racial public order offence and referred my son to the youth offending team. they also wanted him to write a letter of apology. We refused the caution and said that a letter of apology would not be written. We were advised that all the evidence would be sent to the CPS and a court hearing would be the next stage. We have not heard anything since!!! What an absolutely traumatic waste of time this was, it left my son very anxious and it exacerbated his Autism Anxieties. It was such a dreadful time for us and to leave us 'hanging' not knowing what was going on was incredibly worrying time. So, there it is. Thank you once again for all your help and advice.
The Police wanted to issue a caution for aggravated racial public order offence and referred my son to the youth offending team. they also wanted him to write a letter of apology. We refused the caution and said that a letter of apology would not be written. We were advised that all the evidence would be sent to the CPS and a court hearing would be the next stage. We have not heard anything since!!! What an absolutely traumatic waste of time this was, it left my son very anxious and it exacerbated his Autism Anxieties. It was such a dreadful time for us and to leave us 'hanging' not knowing what was going on was incredibly worrying time. So, there it is. Thank you once again for all your help and advice.
