Are We Going To Be Able To Avoid A Hard Border With The Eu?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41936931
It's in everyone's interest to cooperate on this but it seems to be proving a stumbling block.

[ToraToraTora]

bang on Togo, it seems they rely on the vichy British to do their treachery. The collaborators within seem only too willing.

[New Judge]

"Each side decides to sign a trade agreement..."

Unfortunately Ireland cannot do that, Ron. They are bound by their masters in Brussels. If Ireland wants no border with the UK their best option is to join the UK. Either that or get Northern Ireland to leave the UK and join them. Neither is remotely likely so some other solution will have to be found. I'm sure it's not beyond the wit of man. (Though it may be beyond the will of the Euromaniacs).

[jim360]

All of this stuff about "Vichy British" is outrageous and offensive, and totally uncalled for. Frankly I think that anyone who uses it again should be taken out and shot.

[ToraToraTora]

jim. Indigenous population side with the enemy to undermine their own country. I think my description is accurate.

[jim360]

Oh, I was sort of hoping that your irony klaxon would go off there.

Ah, well.

[ToraToraTora]

it did jim but that's also my stock answer when others have complained about that entirely appropriate label. If anyone thinks it's harsh just stop collaborating and backing the enemy, simples!

[Togo]

Well thank you TTT. Mrs May has given me a reason to keep on keeping on and I am determined to live long enough to see Britain free of the EU gangsters.

[jourdain2]

Difficult. Yes, of course it can be avoided with goodwill on both sides and modern electronics. Goodwill is, unfortunately, obviously lacking from the European side. So, it has to be a hard border then. It will only hold up people for a few mins. - there can be a 'fasttrack lane for daily or regular users - an electronic recognition system for exampled. The EU doesn't seem to understand that there are some things which are simply not negotiable and that we will just not accept.

We've offered solutions (and money); they haven't budged - they don't seem to know how to negotiate. OK - hard Brexit and hard border it is, then. Let's get ready for it.
(PS They were never going to negotiate - they want to scare other countries. Wish our useless lot would stand up and say 'Right, then....'.
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[Old_Geezer]

It isn't up to us. It depends on whether the EU is determined to cause problems or not. And whether the Irish are going to accept their lack of sovereignty and take orders from them. Basically it's down to how awkward one lot deliberately decides to be, and how much backbone the other lot has. There's no valid reason to have a hard border if both sides don't want one.