We do like to bang on in Ireland about how appallingly heinous the treatment of the Irish is /was by the English. We have been, to date, somewhat more reticient about the fact that we really can give the English a run for their money with the way we treat our own. The Magdalene Laundries need to be held up by our own people as the discgraceful socially appropriated thing they were, egged on by the Church and it's fear of loss of authority, the smug simple ignorance of parishioners who sent their own children there on the church's say so and the plain and simple fact that they were profitable and everyone turned a blind eye. Only once we have looked this bogey man well and truly in the eye, apologised and compensated it's living vitims and honoured it's dead ones loud and clear can we possibly hope to prevent such disgusting happenings ever taking place again, because it was not many weeks ago that yet again the bletherings of the church and it's insidious effect on Irish society caused that poor girl to die in a hospital in Ireland because they refused to induce the birth of her dead baby, because they viewed it as illegal and a sin. We are still sitting in a quagmire of our own primitive mindset by allowing such things to take place in the 21st century.