Departure From The Truth

[Theland]

I want to go to church, but the chur church next door although C of E has a lovely lady vicar and is involved in Ecumenism. Couldn't touch it with a barge pole.
So what do I do?

[Tilly2]

Me delicate demeanour's bin damaged. :-(

[naomi24]

It ain't right - it just ain't right. An' 'im a Christian too!

[Tilly2]

Sad, innit?

[naomi24]

Yep. :o(

[Prudie]

Another thread from you Theland that has some really witty, funny and at times insightful contributions including from you. What's going on?

[naomi24]

Prudie, I've said it before but Theland's sense of humour is second to none - it really is - until it fails.

[Theland]

If I continue to feel under pressure, I shall publicly burn a copy of the Yellow pages. That'll lern y'all!

[Tilly2]

Yellow Pages is so thin these days, that'll last about a minute!
Not much of a protest really. :-)

[Jackdaw33]

A bit early for you, Theland. You don't normally emerge until after midnight when good, Christian folk are asleep in their beds and Satan lets loose the hounds of Hell.

[jourdain2]

We have a lovely, lady vicar (a bit scatty at times). I don't have a problem with that - seems that it is ladies who are keeping the churches around here open. We are part of a combined Benefice so there are 2 other male vicars who appear every so often. Would attending services held by them help you? I don't know where you are, but few churches have only 1 vicar devoted to them these days.

You could attend services and not go up for Communion- you would still have the refreshment of the Liturgy.

Ecumenism isn't everyone's cup of tea - it's not mine - but do you have to be involved with that aspect? If all else fails, since the church is next door, you can at least go in there and hold your own, quiet vigil.

The Church is open for you, as it is for everyone. You could speak to the lady vic. ( who will not be offended) and she will do her best to direct you to a service which suits you. :)

[Theland]

Jourdain2 a good answer. Just want the peace and atmosphere to help me pray and meditate and fellowship.

[jourdain2]

My answer was based on having taken my place for an hour at a quiet vigil in a local church today. Just sitting there was a complete surprise as to the peace - an interface between normal life and God.
'Vigil' sounds horrid - it means separating yourself from the world for a while, that's all. :)

[Jackdaw33]

It is difficult, isn't it. i do not object to women taking certain roles; indeed when I was young we had a deaconess who assisted the vicar. However she could not consecrate the sacraments. I could even accommodate women deacons, as deacons, of whatever sex may also not perform the sacraments. Although retired now for forty years I was organist in various parishes in my locality. Whilst in my last position I did inform them that if a lady vicar was ever appointed I would have to leave. They didn't appoint a lady vicar, they appointed a lady bishop! in the most orthodox diocese in the Province of York.

[Jackdaw33]

All vigil means is keeping watch, from the Latin Vigilare.

[jourdain2]

JD - yes, indeed. I found it peculiarly life-enhancing. :)

[Jackdaw33]

Try as you might, you will never persuade me to accept vicars in knickers.

[naomi24]

Jackdaw, that’s what Dibley's David Horton said …. and look what happened there! ;o)

[woofgang]

blimey jackdaw, does your male vicar go commando then? And how do you know???????