I Think He Means The Eu Will Regret Making Brexit Innevitable.....

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43384357

[ToraToraTora]

that's what the remoaners seem to crave OG

[Garaman]

Apparently about 66% of people in the EU are unhappy with the direction it is taking at the moment, but about 70% don't want to leave. That is hard to understand to some Brits I know.

[New Judge]

It’s not difficult to understand at all.

I can see this from the point of view of those from other EU nations. If, for example, you are French and like the idea of huge sums of foreign taxpayers’ dosh being shovelled into your inefficient farming industry I can see your point. If you are Romanian or Bulgarian it must be nice to see similarly large sums come your country’s way under the “infrastructure and cohesion” scheme (whilst being able to settle in, say, the UK, where you can earn up to ten times the amount you could at home). That’s fair enough.

As well as this, I seem to recall that quite a number of UK Remainers are unhappy with the direction the EU is travelling but want to remain in nonetheless. (Like Mrs May they could be called “reluctant Remainers”).They see the advantages outweighing the disadvantages. I don’t quite see the up side for the UK though (and even if I did, no “up side” is worth sacrificing our sovereignty for).

The difficulty that the Remainers (both reluctant and eager) would have faced had we chosen to remain is that there will certainly come a time when the direction in which the EU is travelling takes most of them them to a situation where almost all of them will be unhappy. By that time it will be too late to opt out of the various “concessions” the UK currently enjoys. They will be withdrawn as sure as eggs is eggs (because that’s how the EU works). Then it will be too late. The direction the EU is taking is to a Federation ruled from Brussels. The Euromaniacs may suffer of setback or two due to “popularist” votes from time to time but, as has been witnessed, they will not allow a trifling thing such as the wishes of the people get in their way.

[Garaman]

Your usual mantra, NJ, but I'm pleased to hear that you do at least understand that most in the EU are happy to remain in the EU.

[New Judge]

I think they would be less happy to leave it - which is not quite the same thing as being happy to remain.

The Remain campaign was conducted on similar lines, trying to convince people that leaving would be somewhat more unpleasant than remaining.

[Garaman]

Most in the EU are happy being in the EU, but unhappy with the direction it is taking - which is not the same thing as being unhappy with the EU. Some, like you, NJ, like to portray that differently.

[New Judge]

"Most in the EU are happy being in the EU, but unhappy with the direction it is taking..."

Then they would be well advised to leave because its direction will not change and it will not be too long before they are unhappy being in the EU.

[Garaman]

I wouldn't expect you to say anything else, NJ.