Either Smith is wrong or the majority of Labour members are. The decision has been made, one doesn't waste time, money and effort doing the right thing then trying to embarass one's nation, and making it an international laughing stock, by risking snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory. Project Fear failed at the time, it can not be allowed to keep plugging away hoping to ruin everything achieved. Smith's replacing seems an inevitable consequence of failing to toe the party line.
///Majority of Labour members want second Brexit vote///
in the industrial parts of the uk that labour considers its heartland, the leave vote exceeded the remain vote by a very visible margin. maybe what Mr Smith actually meant was that the majority of labour members in trendy spots like Islington want a second vote.
The Labour Party has a set of policies which it wants to present to the voters. So a Minister should follow the party line when he is working. If he starts spouting stuff that is his person view, and it is at odds with the party policy, then the voters are going to get confused.
Corbyn knows this more than most because he was often a critic of party policy which is why he was never given a Ministerial position and was kept marginalised. Just what he has done to Smith.
gromit, apologies, I meant it as a TIC reference to previous discussions when "Islington" has been used as a euphemism, the written word can often lose the tone that is intended. No insult intended, trying, and it seems, failing to be amusing! Please accept my apologies.
Leaders are usually dispatched when they lose a General Election. Corbyn managed that at the first attempt, but then something unusual happened. He didn’t lose it as badly as his colleagues expected, and they regarded the loss as a win, and so he survived.
oh come on
be fair
everyone knows that there are scores of cowed and starving Brexiters hiding away and saying 'I didnt know it would be like this - if I were asked to vote again......'
sorry souls - bedraggled - unwashed stinkers who whimper
we were told it would be £350 m per week to the NHS and the very next day that arch liar ( Nigel Farage for it was he) admitted he shouldnt have said that !
when they come out of their houses
parents give small children one penny pieces and tuppences to throw at them ! (*)
(*) this occurred in Italy after the old PM Bettino Craxi was convicted to accepting bribes
//no one is safe from a moderator// erm edited sort of
what about the moderators themselves - quis custodiet ipsos custodes and that jazz. sozza readers a bit of forrin there. Surely they dont read the stuff and think " jesus there is some stuff here that needs to go - and hey! that piece was by me! "