Oh Now She’S Uncompromising. Should’Ve Done That With The Eu At The Start

[cassa333]

https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1015348342140866560

As was suspected, a sell out and no Brexit.

Well done. We will be a broken country in no time because she has given the EU exactly what they wanted. Free trade and alignment. But got chuff all back in financial services.

Woohoo the remainers have ruined the country. Bet their glad now.

[vetuste_ennemi]

//Triggering Article 50 on June 24th, as has been clearly established at every level of the legal system, would have been unconstitutional (ie, illegal)... This is not controversial, it's a simple fact. We couldn't have just walked away and left, however much you might wish that it were so//

I remember this. Didn't"That’s incorrect. There's nothing impossible or illegal in Bigbad's suggestion."

Now you are just plain wrong -- Triggering Article 50 on June 24th, as has been clearly established at every level of the legal system, would have been unconstitutional (ie, illegal). Since that is at the heart of BB's suggestion, the rest also follows as impossible. This is not controversial, it's a simple fact. We couldn't have just walked away and left//

Hadn't Cameron promised to invoke A50 immediately[ if the referendum went the "wrong" way? Nobody in or outside the government queried the legality of this. Had May done what Cameron promised the issue would never have been litigated. It was the delay and Gina Miller's campaign which quetioned the legality of the process. Lot of legal nicety about the use of "the royal prerogative" (whatever that might be) as I recall, rather than some edident "non-constitutional" enormity - if that term has any legal meaning in UK law.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Sorry for the garbled beginning of that post.

[Kromovaracun]

//Lot of legal nicety about the use of "the royal prerogative" (whatever that might be) //

If I'm not mistaken, royal prerogative refers to powers that are "delegated" (for want of a better word) from the crown to the government. It's the legal means by which the government exercises power on behalf of the monarch. But some powers are deemed to be RP and some are deemed to belong to parliament - which is ultimately sovereign in UK law.

So it wasn't "legal niceties", it was an important argument over whether the government had the right to exercise those powers or not. As it turns out, it doesn't. So it's a good thing it was challenged - and I damn well hope it would have been had May honoured Cameron's idiotic promise (which I don't remember, but that's by the by).

[baza]

You get to vote IN or OUT and we will honour the outcome, so said Camermoron, the vote went the wrong way for him and his Euro cronies so he legged it. The people voted to leave so leave we must not with a mishmash of bull excrement but cut all ties with that unelected bunch of thieves in Brussels.

[Kromovaracun]

We are an EU member currently.

If this plan goes ahead, we will not be an EU member by the end of 2020.

That is leaving.

[Rockrose]

//Woohoo the remainers have ruined the country//
With respect it was the Brexiters that ruined the country.

[ichkeria]

Nobody has ruined the country ; everyone wants what is best. A sensible Brexit that does not wreck our economy or throw into unemployment those who voted for it is about the best we can hope for from what frankly is a mess

[Zacs-Master]

Well said, Ich.

[Old_Geezer]

With respect, leaving a controlling group to become sovereign ruins nothing, at worst there is a short period of turmoil while the new improved status quo settles in: it's starting to leave then wrecking that activity that May cause ruin.