Mother Poisoned By Novichok Is Dead.

[ladybirder]

Now what will we do?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5931573/Mother-poisoned-Novichok-DEAD.html

[ichkeria]

Yes several of them above.

[ichkeria]

You ask ‘cui bono’
Certainly not Britain. Who knows the mind of a killer state but most people on Russia believe the anti-West propaganda spread by their government and those that don’t think ‘serve them right’
Eddie has it: only one place this stuff is made and it’s the essential fact that gets lost all the time. The tragedy is we can no longer rely on the leader of the free world to take our side any more

[CrapAtCryptics]

Maybe her resistance was reduced by her previous reported substance abuse. If so it doesnt look good for her friend.

[ladybirder]

The Russians have just issued a statement saying that they are sorry to hear about the death of Dawn but any suggestion that Russia is responsible is absurd.
No surprises there then.

[ichkeria]

Their original claim that it can’t have been top grade Novichok class nerve agent as it want deadly enough is looking a bit daft.
No surprises there either

[Gromit]

Not sure the origin of the compound is enough to be able to apportion blame.
There is no evidence available, even the syringe is just a guess at how they became infected.
Events in Salisbury appear to be very amateur and unplanned. It might be the Russians, or it might not be. But there seems a dearth of evidence either way.

[ichkeria]

How do you know there isn’t any evidence??
A lot of the evidence is secret for whatever reason. That much was clear after the OPCW report.
The only plausible explanation that doesn’t involve the Russian actual government is that somehow elements of the GRU got hold of it independently. But that still puts Russia in the dock for harbouring and maintaining stocks of a banned weapon

[Gromit]

After a murder of a Russian businessman in the 1990s, Leonid Rink, an employee at a Russian chemical lab, was prosecuted for supplying the nerve agent that caused the death. About the same time, the German Security Services obtained a sample. That was sent to Sweden, and small samples were distributed to western NATO countries.
A patent for an treatment for Novichok poisoning from Maryland University, was filed in 2008, after research funded by the US Army.
So though created by the Russians, the nerve agent is not now exclusive to Russian labs.

[ichkeria]

Er I think it is. There is simply no way that stuff came from anywhere but Russia, no matte who may have brought it, and I’ll stake my reputation on that statement :-)
The question i never answered was what do we do know? Well, plainly have a word with the Donald later this week; get him to lay it on the line to his best friend in Helsinki ;-)

[Minkyme]

//Murdered by KGB incompetence ! But of course the Russians will just deny everything.
Remember Novichok is ONLY made in ONE place on Earth. The KGB Chemical warfare lab in the USSR.//

Wow, usually I refuse to be any part of political debates on the net but had to chime in here as this post shows a clear lack of iq,intelligence and intellect.

WHO and WHAT is your source of this information?

WHY can’t this compound be replicated by anyone else in the world and WHY would Russia who have been already implicated in the last novocheck ALLEGED attacks who are currently under the worlds media spotlight do this again and WHAT would Russia have to gain by killing a pair of unknown junkies?

Anyone with an iq of any number of above single digits would REALISE that this is a BLATANT smear campaign against Russia.

They are ALSO hosting the trouble free WORLD CUP so again WHY would the filthy and BRING ATTENTION back to THEMSELVES after the LAST allegation?

[Peter Pedant]

// Remember Novichok is ONLY made in ONE place on Earth. The KGB Chemical warfare lab in the USSR.//

nope sorry there are some in AB who KNOW that it is also made at Porton Down only 6 miles away. and others ( on AB ) who only rely on evidence and so it is obvious that this is a 'flase-flag'(*) attack by MI5. Yeah stands to reason dat does

(*) yup no joke - try you tube search for 'flase flag' love the phrase and you will get hits!

[Peter Pedant]

eek ! one of them Minkyme has just posted above ! oops!