Brexit Deal In 6 Weeks

[Gromit]

// Barnier last week told U.K. lawmakers there are “lots of useful things” in the government’s post-Brexit blueprint.

“I think it’s possible” to get a deal by the start of November, Barnier said at the conference. “We are not far from agreement.”

A spokesman for the U.K. government told reporters that there’s been “positive" engagement with EU leaders and the U.K. is working toward a deadline of a summit in mid-October. Once a deal is reached, it has to go to the U.K. Parliament for approval. //

Good News ?

[Jackdaw33]

Fat chance.

[dannyk13]

Last night on the news a Tory spokesman said if a deal based on Chequers is agreed then 80 Tory MP's will resign the whip.

[Old_Geezer]

He may now have decided he isn't far from agreement with May's proposal, now the EU countries are getting nervous; but the issue is that May's proposal isn't acceptable for the UK anyway. It's either rejected now or we spend years trying to correct it.

[Peter Pedant]

80 turkeys voting for christmas
have we had the usual Brexit comments ?
the problem is immigration, we shall all be murdered in our beds by brown skinned people tonight, etc etc.

teetering on the edge seems to have been a deliberate tactic by both sides - so let them fiddle !

[Togo]

Let's get this straight then. After initially trashing the appeasers Chequers proposals, as do most of the Brexit supporters, the EUSSR has now decided to embrace it. Why would that be do you think? Is it because they wish to further interfere in the UK political debates by undermining the resolve to leave, or are they afraid of a full and true severance of the ponzi scheme chains. Tell them it is too late, the moment has passed, we prefer no deal to a sly deal.

[Spicerack]

'Why would that be do you think?'

They could sense our money slipping from their grasp.

[ichkeria]

Bad news for the ‘bash Barnier let’s jump off the deep end’ brigade.
They’ll have to redouble their efforts

[andy-hughes]

Monsieur Barnier did add the proviso to his 'six weeks' statement - saying that both sides must be 'flexible'.

That is a typically loaded word, with all kinds of interpretations, so as always, the negotiatons go on, and the pointless speculation continues.

[The_Rim_Greaper]

what a coincidence...the jackboots of the eussr see Theresa ReMayner getting hammerd and "suddenly" decide to back her and step back a bit...

they know that if she goes then any straws they still clutch at keeping us under their control will swiftly vanish under water...

this is all part of the plan, the smokescreen and mirrors being used to make the "negotiations" look real...

as always it will be "negotiations went on well into the early hours of the morning (cue pic of sarnies being taken it)and a deal was reached (cue pics of smiley happy back slapping people handshakes all round) standing on the steps of some eussr palace..

[ToraToraTora]

bad news, If Barmpot likes it then it's bad for Britain.

[mushroom25]

//“I think it’s possible” to get a deal by the start of November, Barnier said //

I suspect M.Barnier hasn't factored in the party conference season, during which the politicos will be missing for a month.

[Zacs-Master]

The Irish border question still looms large.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-talks-risk-collapse-irish-border-compromise-uk-eu-a8527531.html

[Togo]

Oh but he has Mushroom. The "timing" of his condescending missive is with the upcoming conference firmly in mind. As stated earlier, an attempt to interfere in our affairs once again.

[New Judge]

The Irish border is a non-issue. I keep explaining that neither the UK nor Ireland will impose a hard border. That is a fact which both sides have accepted. That leaves just the EU and they have neither the resources nor the authority to do so. So who is going to stop the trucks carrying goods from Belfast to Dublin, count the number of widgets they have on board and check that all the widgets comply with EU standards? It is a non-issue that is simply being used to screw ever more "compromises" from the UK.

[Zacs-Master]

You're comment 'That leaves just the EU' is rather underplaying the situation seeing as they are the body who will set the parameters of the final deal (should there be one).
How would you suggest the Ministers who find the currently offered deal unacceptable, proceed?

[New Judge]

You need to separate the Irish Border being used as a lever to secure a deal and the reality of what will happen if no deal is done.

I suggest that the Irish question is a non-issue because whatever deal is agreed, or even if no deal is agreed, there will be no hard border. Accordingly the only reason it is mentioned as an issue is because the EU wants to wring as many concessions as it can out of the UK. They suggest that the border issue could be a factor in whether or not they "do a deal" but there can be no consequence (at the border) if no deal is done.

Unfortunately nobody seems to have established exactly what the EU want in terms of the Irish border (other than for NI to remain, effectively in the customs union). More than that, nobody else seems to have suggested what will happen at the border in the event of no deal being agreed (since nobody is in a position to enforce it). In view of the incredibly small (relatively speaking) amount of trade that crosses the border the EU are simply using it as a lever. As with all of this somebody needs to get real and point out that if we leave with no deal, not much of any consequence will occur on the Irish border. Hence it's a non-issue.

[Zacs-Master]

‘there can be no consequence (at the border) if no deal is done’

‘if we leave with no deal, not much of any consequence will occur’

Both of these statements ignore the fact that the EU will still have a say (or, in Brexitish ‘the evil lord Sauron will still hold Ireland in thrall’) in southern Ireland’s affairs.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch; Jacob Rees Mogg appparently has a soloution so we can all sit back and relax. Can’t we?
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1016192/brexit-news-ireland-irish-border-jacob-rees-mogg

One month until the October council meeting deadline for this to be resolved.

[New Judge]

"Both of these statements ignore the fact that the EU will still have a say ...in southern Ireland’s affairs."

No they don't. Perhaps I'll put it a bit simpler. We leave the EU next March (with or without a deal). The day after our departure what will happen at the Irish border? Regardless of the EU's influence in the Republic's affairs, just what will happen? If the answer is anything other than "nothing", what is it?