Remembering 9 11

[murraymints]

17 years ago...the world was shocked...so many souls perished... May they be never forgotten...

[andres]

^^^^^the remains of.

[andres]

237SJ--- just google 9/11.

[237SJ]

OK thanks. I will do that as I don't know much about it }

[Peter Pedant]

BB I think there are events that one associates with

I remember Tavistock Sq much more than Manchester Arena
even tho the latter is more tragic [but much better managed]....

I dont think anyone in the UK remembers the fire bombing of Tokyo in Mar 1944 - 100 000 died, 20 sq mi flattened

[andres]

237J---Thankfully my son was working two blocks away from the Twin Towers when it happened but a lot of his friends and work colleagues lost their lives that day.

[Peter Pedant]

237 SJ
knowing someone has died but you cant find any bit of him - I would perhaps not say - unidentified
or else one if forced to say the cenotaph is full of unidentified men

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/643029/september-11-victims-identified-twin-towers-conspiracies-world-trade-center-anniversary

that site is a bit Breitbartie - "no one knows why so many werent found". Actually we do - the free fall speed of the building was around 200 mph ( or km h-1 ) actually it doesnt matter which
and amongst girders bits of concrete in free fall the bodies were ground to nothing ness.

( all the jumpers had their clothes ripped off in free fall)

and no one knows why the building fell vertically
(yes we do if you weigh a megaton all you can do is fall vertically as there is no turning moment)

and no one knows why there was so little rubble compared
( yeah we do that - a megaton that high is around 90% air and 10% stuff or material - so it collapses down to 10% volume.......)
The last two predicted by Kelvin - yeah famous kelbin in 1890

[DTCwordfan]

I was caught out over here, at a global meeting and got to see the 2nd tower go down. I had staff due to be in the Windows on the World and they were fortuitously late and still in the Metro.

A company that I was dealing with extensively and became a director of, well they had, at the last minute, moved the meeting with the White House staff off site....the CEO and his sec, due to be in, were late as their kids were back to school that day - and that was one mistake by the attackers as it's been estimated the towers population was some 2000 down.

My lasting memories - the openness and warmth shown by Brits (and not only my co) to Americans stranded over here...remarkable as to the hospitality and want to share.

An Arab walking down the Cromwell Road in all his white sheets and headpiece on the next Saturday evening...I was staying in London before going to Gatwick to get back to the States.... my thought, 'what a plonker you are as you really are asking to be attacked, as in revenge.'

[237SJ]

My memories of 9/11 are (sorry to bore you). Was in Florida. I wanted something to eat and decided that room service was too expensive so I walked down the road and found a Dennys. I was so pleased that I found breakfast for $6. I walked back to the hotel and turned the TV on. Being in Florida, the tv channel was in Spanish. I saw the top of a tall building that I recognised as being in NY on fire. The word "avion" was mentioned so I thought a little Cessna aircraft had hit a skyscraper. Then I tuned into an English speaking channel. Then I realiased what had happened and I watched the rest of the events in real time. I was supposed to fly back to the Uk that afternoon but we knew that wasn't going to happen. The aircraft that we were going to take back to London landed at Bermuda and then turned back to the UK due to the airspace being shut down. I remember the US news saying that there could have been more hijacked aircraft up there and they didn't know where they were. So I had a little look out of my hotel window so that I could figure out how to jump down to the ground from the 7th floor if need's be. We were stuck there for a week (and hurricane Gabriel came through, just to add some interest). When they eventually opened the airspace, off we went. Turned up at the airport and there were all these very solemn people waiting to get on the plane. They all looked very nervous and we had to try to look nonchalant so as not to make them feel even more nervous. There were 400 people on stand by who were trying to get onto my plane. To add to the interest, we had an air rage situation on the way home and I had to get the quick cuffs ready. In the morning, a passenger opened their window blind and I saw the green fields of England. I have never been so happy to see them ever. Took me about 5 days to get over of the whole thing.

[DTCwordfan]

and I too was glad to get back - to the other side of the Pond.

The stress was removed in part at the airport when waiting for the luggage to come up on the carousel...as it did, a drugs beagle arrived and started sniffing at our baggage and then, three up from me, it did what dogs need to do and cocked its leg and pffffzzzzzz, and it peed all over a woman's baggage. Not great for her, but for the rest of us around her, it was a stress-busting moment.

[237SJ]

The thing is, we have always had hijackers but nobody expected suicide hijackers. We are ready for them now but 9/11 was a different time

[DTCwordfan]

what colour is this said carpet...

Aren't you needing one for the new Posch, minty?

[hereIam]

What I remember vividly are the films of the muslim men and women dancing and celebrating in the streets of their sh*thole cities as if something wonderful had happened - sickening ...

[bainbrig]

I remember the Klu Klux Klan rejoicing in Texan streets when JFK was shot. Will you join me in condemning that, too?

[-Talbot-]

Why not start your own thread on the Klu Klux Klan rejoicing in Texan streets when JFK was shot, bainbrig.

[bainbrig]

Dear Talbot,

I know you find intellectual disciplines difficult, so I won’t worry you any further.

For the intelligent amongst you, a comparison was being offered, of course, between hereiam’s memories of dreadful celebrations after 9/11 and a similar lunatic fringe celebrating Kennedy’s murder.

Let us condemn all such lunacy, all such terrorism.