some of us cave men don't have a choice. I use an employer's resource and IE it is, as I don't have admin rights to load anything else. regularly I suffer the curse of the "long running script", probably from a badly written ad. I can't write posts online, the page crashes long before I've finished; I have to write off line and cut 'n paste and hope the page remains active long enough to receive the text. just one of those things I guess - it's always been so and probably won't change..