Defence Of Britain, Given Away?

[Khandro]

Can any remainers justify Theresa May's (aka Oliver Robbins') flagrant surrender of everything the British have fought and died for;

[jim360]

Remainers did not want BRINO, so why would we be happy with that?

[Zacs-Master]

They're fairly simple requests to define exactly what you mean, Tora. Otherwise you look like you don't really know what you voted for in any concrete way and only serves to reinforce my opinion that you voted leave without all the facts to hand and as a protest vote against authority.

[ToraToraTora]

cobras, I'm sick of your eel like wriggling, you know what I and others mean. You know EU law out ranks UK law with out me giving you the specific statute references.

[Canary42]

The Defence of Britain is not under our control anyway, regardless of the EU. We cannot use our nuclear armoury without the consent of USA. The "Put America First" Administration currently in power over there is even less likely to support us than their predecessors did in the Falklands Campaign.

So the "facts" contained in this emotively-directed question merely mirror all the other bull**** the Quitters have been spewing out with increasing frenzy.

[Zacs-Master]

'EU law out ranks UK law'

That's a fundamentally flawed comment for a start!

It's you doing the wriggling. Surely you must know what you think you voted for?

[ToraToraTora]

canary: "We cannot use our nuclear armoury without the consent of USA." - not that BS again, evidence please.

[ToraToraTora]

ZM 13:47 are you attacking the terminolgy now or what? EU law is higher/supercedes/outranks/beats/betters/insert your own adjective UK law. The ECJ can overrule our HOL can they not? Explain what you mean.

[Khandro]

Canary; //We cannot use our nuclear armoury without the consent of USA. The "Put America First" Administration currently in power over there is even less likely to support us than their predecessors did in the Falklands Campaign.//

The defence of Britain does not solely rest on the use of nuclear weapons - boots on the ground, always come first, and Reagan did support Thatcher in the Falklands campaign.

[ToraToraTora]

for canary: https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/no-america-doesnt-control-britains-nuclear-weapons/

[ToraToraTora]

canary: from the link "The key point here is that the British deterrent does not have permissive action link control, which means it does not rely on the use of codes to fire the system. The UK’s Trident fleet relies purely on military discipline to prevent a launch."

[Zacs-Master]

'The ECJ can overrule our HOL can they not?' they can in certain circumstances but that doesn't mean 'EU law out ranks UK law'. Did you mean HOC?

By the way it's actually CJEU, not ECJ.

Did you appreciate that UK courts, other than the Supreme Court, will continue to be bound by EU laws and court decisions made before Brexit? This is an attempt to preserve continuity given that previous CJEU decisions have influenced many areas of English case law. Note the word 'influenced' not 'overruled.

[ToraToraTora]

ZM: with my post at 13:51 I seek only to comprehend your comment "That's a fundamentally flawed comment for a start! " - at 13:47.