EU: Lisbon Treaty - Ireland says NO!

[Gromit]

Initial reports from counting offices across Ireland today suggest that voters have rejected the Lisbon Treaty, plunging the European Union into a fresh constitutional crisis.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/eu rope/article4128055.ece

What now?

[nedflanders]

what now? They will fiddle with the rules slightly so that only 26/27 countries need to ratify it to pass it.

[Tichfield]

Wait for the official results:

Yes side makes up ground in latest tallies

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0613/eulisbon.html

or


Early Lisbon tallies lean toward No vote

http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaking/2008 /0613/breaking1.htm

[helpmetoo]

ned

how cynical!

spot on with your analysis,

still at least they are having a vote,

this lot will only allow us to register our votes 'if the time and situation is right'

(that means if they are guaranteed to get the result they want)

still, thats democracy! (i jest )

[R1Geezer]

Good old Paddies, thanks Guys!

"What now?"

they'll keep having referendums until they say yes!

[Blofeld]

Hi,

Not really understanding all these treatys, so could someone please be kind enough to explain, in laymans terms....

What does it mean to a little person like me?

If it ends up a Yes, what will I get out of it?

If it ends up a no?

What will I get out of it?

What difference does it make?

Kindest Regards

[bazwillrun]

this isnt just a vote against a treaty or whatever pathetic name the EU wish to call it until they give it another name.

Its a no against the whole idea of a united states of europe which is what this document is all about, to pave the way to completely control this and other countries.

they can call it what they like but people know what it means and the majority are against it which is why our so called government will not allow us to vote on it, because they know that it will be an overwhelming no.

The EU will take punative measure against Ireland , as they already threatened to do if they voted no.

That alone should tell you what the EU is about, a democratic vote and they dont like it.

Thats just a very very small taster of what things under EU rule will be like in the future.

Make no mistake, they will do whatever they have to do to rule us, as has been their agenda since the end of the second world war, and they will stop at nothing.

this no vote is just a small thorn in their side

[sinbadp]

Thats one in the eye for Johnny foreigner.
I wish we lived in a democracy like Ireland

[scotstone]

This vote means nothing. The Irish will now be bribed, blackmailed and threatened until they have enough referendums to produce a yes vote.
This is why Brown and Cameron will deny the British a referendum because the resulting resounding NO vote would induce a similar backlash from the crooks in Brussels.

[jake-the-peg]

What it means is that you'll have to continue with out voting everybody will have to agree before something can happen.

It'll make things very difficult to achieve results and the people who voted NO will say look you can't get anything done.

Bit like trashing the local pub and then turning up the next day and saying "I wouldn't go in there it's a dive"

Well the yanks will be happy!

[anotheoldgit]

All this talk of changing the rules until they get a yes vote, makes Mugabe's Zimbarbwe almost a democracy.

[brionon]

A Multi Millionaire who wants to keep his Monopolies spends a fortune to get a NO vote and this is Democracy ? The Irish have gone from one of the poorest lands in Europe to one of the Richest. Typical daft Paddy.

[helpmetoo]

yes bri

and one day you never know they could even be a net contributor

out of 27 exactly how many countries put more money in than they take out?

[brionon]

How does this affect the Irish ?

[jno]

I think ned is approximately right. It has to be ratified by everyone or it doesn't go. But they could offer Ireland enough opt-outs to encourage them to approve it. After all, Britain was given an opt-out of the charter of human rights they drew up, so the government can ensure we all have fewer rights than everyone else in Europe (except the happy Poles, I don't think it applies to them either).

[vetuste_ennemi]

If there were another referendum in which the "people" voted (unlike the apes and pigs who voted previously), and Brexit (i.e. leave with no deal) were allowed as an option - just guessing - what would happen if the apes and pigs, sorry "people" got it wrong again?

Over to Geena Miller and you, Jim.

[vetuste_ennemi]

"Fewer rights than everyone else in Europe".

Does the clown who said that know anything about European (or world) history?