Who Was Satan

[nailit]

Having just reread through Naomi's post re: Jesus, I realise that all through my early church indoctrination, I never got any satisfactory explanation about the biblical character of Satan.
I got the usual story about Satan been a fallen angel who was previously known as Lucifer and read the bible stories about the temptation of Jesus by Satan etc, blah, blah, blah.
However, The references to 'The Dark Lord' are few and far between and any coherent history of this biblical character is hard to piece together using only the Bible.
If you believe in a Satan character then you have a lot of explaining to do regarding an omnipotent God.
Would be interested to hear how anyone views this character and would be interested to hear how you would answer any questions put to you about him/it.

(Im also familiar with the saying that Satans greatest trick is to not believe in his existence before anyone trots that one out, thanks)

[locusts]

Locust I have tried to answer all your questions
You had eight separate questions and I tried to put altogether in a way you would understand through the Bible Scriptures but it seems like you missed the point . So I would attend to give you another way of examining what I am trying to say. For me Satan is a real energetic person and very dangerous. Now in Joe chapter 1.1-22 is different than Joe chapter 2 .1.13 note that the Angels used to to take their station before their God( why ?) and even Satan enter and to his place , and in jod .1 .7 and arguments between Satan and GOD a row is in the four courts, and everybody was listening to this argument ?( Malicious. jealous .Self-seeking .manslayer), Angel(Satan) carefully used his words of incitement like he did in the garden of eden (genesis 3.1.5 ) and all the spiritual Angels could hear is discussion. And they must have had an assignment on the earth because in job .1..7 he answers, from roaming about and walking about in it . And, Now have you set your sights on my servant JOB.. You see how he questions god's rights of authority. Because you have put a hedge around him and you blissed him . Knows this self-seeking Angel( Satan) attacked Joe by destroying his property and then his family .JOB .1-12.. Now IN JOB 2 -4 vs. four see what he says this malicious satan because he would have killed Joe with some infections or illness so God had to put restrictions on this argument so God said you can not take his soul( life) because we know from genesis.3 .19 . adam and Eve , died eventually and this was because of Satan's malicious lies.

Nailit ( 2) Why was Satan cast to Earth in the first place when God had an entire universe in which to banish him? Seems as though BibleGod was setting Adam & Eve up for a fall.
Locust because people has bebecome unrighteous and disobedience.. the creator use the earth to see if man would prove himself s righteou or unrighteous for the great day of judgment john .5 .28 Adam and eve willfully disobey GOD command
john 5 .28.29. there is to be the judgment ing of the righteous and the unrighteous
Nailit ( 3) If Satan was banished from heaven, then how come the book of Job has him in heaven having a friendly little wager with God
locust this happened when Jesus return to heaven, after his death because it was written( revelation) by apostle john was prisoner on the island of patmos c 96 Revelation 1:1-3 .1.1...2 Jesus gives him a series of visions about the future.

Nailit ( 4) In the Bible, Satan kills Job's children and servants (condoned and allowed by God)
He is not recorded as having killed anyone else in contrast to the millions slaughtered by God.
Locust . You Have to remember that he (God) support his own people and he will protect them and look after them and keep them from anyone how is disloyal to him will be judged.
locust and thats it.satan has killed millions on millions of people in death because of the (lies ) genesis 3. 3 you possibilities will not bie when he told .Eve,, genesis 3.3.4.5 (3) you will positively not die . even touch the fruit you will died , now everyone dies even through sickness or old age doesn’t matter how , we all die .
Nailit ( 5)Why is he seen as previously been known by the name of Lucifer when the word Lucifer (its not a name) is only mentioned one time and in only one version (KJV) of the Bible and even then in relation to a Babylonion king and not a supernatural entity?

[locusts]

Nailit ( 6) Satan is seen as the cause of evil even though God himself says that he is the cause (Isaiah 45:7).
Apperently Satan and a third of his following were cast to Earth (Rev:12)...(Again, why Earth?) and became demons. And yet according to the same Bible, 

//And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but
locust 1 john 5 19  We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one. (Are we righteou or unrighteous ) Faith loyalty love God the Bible talks of these quantities

Nailit ( 7) abandoned their proper dwelling—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day//  (Jude v6) 
If they were bound with chains and kept in darkness, why was jesus going around casting them out of people? Why still today are they seen as Satans minions going around causing havoc?  Apperently Satan and a third of his following were cast to Earth (Rev:12)...(Again, why Earth?) and became demons. And yet according to the same Bible, 
//And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day// 
locust Revelaton 20 1.3----21 3.4
( J ude v6) 
If they were bound with chains and kept in darkness, why was jesus going around casting them out of people? Why still today are they seen as Satans minions going around causing havoc?
locust Revelation 16:14The book of Revelation shows that Judgment Day begins after the war of Armageddon, when Satan’s system on earth will be destroyed
Nailit ( 8))According to the Bible there was a war in heaven between Satan and God. Why do believers look forward to going to a place where war occurs?  locust Psalms 37 ..1.11..22 isaiah 11. 6- -25.11—-65.22.25-
How could there possibly be a war anyway between a created being and an omnipotent God? Its like saying that I had a war with an ant.
locust I hope this is some help this what I Beleave

[spathiphyllum]

How i think Christians see god is, the energy of goodness. How i think Christians see Satan is, the energy of evil.

[naomi24]

Hello Locusts. Long time no see.

[agchristie]

//why are ALL snakes condemned to eat dust//

This issue was addressed by Theresa May in the last COBRA meeting...

[douglas9401]

A typo never goes away.

His name was Stan and he put his bins out late, one time, but the whole Chinese whispers thing had him as the personification of evil in the space of a few days

Hell of a thing.

[agchristie]

Could be right there Doug,you have earned a laurel o:)

[naomi24]

Ooooo..... kiss me, Hardy!

[Atheist]

locusts, are you a real person? Your posts seem completely unintelligible to me, and sound as if they are written by a computer. Are you able to be a bit simpler and clearer?

[gulliver1]

Always thought Satan was Margaret Thatcher , in the female form.

[Mexican18]

I thought you had come to your sensesNailit.What a load of nonsense!

[dunnitall]

What makes me smile and I know you will ALL ignore my post is....you all assume that this bible.. A.... bible is the truth for this religion. In hundreds of years they will be assuming the Harry Potter books are the truth and that's how people were etc etc.

Do you not consider it's all bunkum, that it's the mind set of beings who had low IQ and were led by others who set themselves up as the knowledgeable ones?

We have seen 'religions'.... sects if you like, followed by the gullible today....maybe this is the same from all those years ago....

However what a good wheeze...a good debating point where there's no answer and humans then get into heated discussion. Just thinking....that's all.... Tis my take on it here.... And will always be. Happy debating it's good fun yeh?

[Atheist]

Mexican, do you have any constructive comment apart from mere assertion and ad hominemism? Nice to explain which of Nailit's posts you disagree with, and why.

[nailit]

//locusts, are you a real person? Your posts seem completely unintelligible to me, and sound as if they are written by a computer. Are you able to be a bit simpler and clearer?//
Glad it isn't just me then Atheist :-)
I too couldn't make head nor tail of his/her/its posts.

Also don't know what Mexican is on about...