Double Standards I Think?

[anotheoldgit]

Last night, on late night LBC radio a certain presenter referred to the President of the United States as that "ORANGE APE who lives in the White House" (obviously the orange refers to his skin tone)

Would he have been allowed to refer to the last President in a similar a way?

I think not, he would have been sacked on the spot and rightly so, so why has there been no outcry over this?

[HBAnorak]

Quite new here so was wondering: does AOG know perfectly well why ape insults are especially and profoundly insulting to black people and obviously racist in both effect and intent, and he is just being wilfully obtuse? Or is he seriously suggesting equivalence between that and lampooning Trump? TIA

[archibaldy]

AOG: "Is having a black skin and any association with Africa, something to be ashamed about?"

Historically people having those specific characteristics were subject to somewhat more than name calling, it meant a lower social status and less rights. This is why direct allusions to those specific characteristics by comparison to monkeys for instance is just more than simply "name calling", it's referring to the fact that the recipient is of a lower social status than the person saying it - this is not implied when referring to slap heads or ginger nuts.

Football chants about someones dead brother for instance is on the face of it just words, but to say "sticks and stones.." won't stop that person feeling negative emotions.

Comparisons to monkeys for other characteristics is more acceptable however but to address your original point it's skating on thin ice using it to describe black people because of the other connotations, even if you just meant they have low intelligence, or even that they are excellent at climbing trees.

[retrocop]

Yes Mr aog. I agree that not only are double standards being used here but also lack of professional journalistic standards although that seems to be slipping by the board everywhere now. John Snow, ' I don't think I have seen such a large gathering of white people',
What! In your own country Mr Snow?

[anotheoldgit]

archiebaldy

/// it's referring to the fact that the recipient is of a lower social status than the person saying
it ///

Lower social status????

A black professional footballer earning mega bucks, versus a football yobo who is paying out a ridiculous amount of his 'benefit' money, to watch that person of a "lower social status" kick a bag of wind around for 90 minutes.

[archibaldy]

Yes, believe it or not the people doing monkey chants truly believe that blacks have a lower status than them just because they are black, that's why they refer to their skin colour and heritage by comparing them to monkeys. Surely that's not a revelation?

[xstitcher]

Perhaps the orange liar would have been more appropriate.