Times Jumbo 1385

[stevenj]

Hello. Glorious day here except that His Nibs has had to work all day (so that he can watch the match tonight) as his last exams are coming up! Say a prayer for him (or whatever you do). it matters so much to him (to us!!). But I've been able to sit in the garden and do the crossie. (Well, I had to earn my leisure. SWMBO had a number of jobs for me. Slavedriver!)

A couple that I need help with please.
13 ac Girl in Ginsberg poem a male spurned . I have E?I?A so Eliza fits but I don't know any Ginsberg poems so I have no idea if that is the answer.
35ac Notorious bar mostly clean. I have P?B?I? so public fits. Can public mean notorious? And what about the clean part?
8 d Tackle aboard in fine revolutionary raft (3,4) With the letters I have Kon Tiki fits and I read that at school but I don't really understand how I get there.
steven

[Neveracrossword]

13 Ginsberg wrote a poem called America - so drop A M, a male, to egt Erica,girl.

[Neveracrossword]

35 I think Lick, would be the 'clean', and 'mostly' gives 'lic'.

[Captain2]

13 (A M)Erica

[cashier]

8 Kit in in ok all reversed

[Neveracrossword]

35 Notorious can mean just 'generally known' or 'widely acknowledged', so I suppose that's the same as 'public'.

[stevenj]

Thank you to all of you. I greatly appreciate your help. As always, easy when the explanation is there!
Is the Ginsberg poem famous? I have never heard of it. Not that I have read his stuff anyway. Should I?
steven

[Neveracrossword]

35 - that meaning is from Collins. Chambers says 'publicly known (only in a bad sense)' for 'notorious.'

[Captain2]

Not one that I am familiar with either Steven, but if you want a read and give us a synopsis......... ;)))

http://www.writing.upenn.edu/~afilreis/88/america.html

[Neveracrossword]

Steven, I'd never heard of the poem - but that's par for the course! I've just looked it up and don't think it's my sort of thing. It's stream of consciousness stuff, pointing out US faults....

[stevenj]

Well, it was a quick read (obviously) but I see why they didn't teach it at school!! And is it poetry? I don't expect rhyming couplets but I am not convinced that just chopping prose into lines make it poetry.

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[Captain2]

I've just read it too (apologies for the bad language), and if I hadn't noticed it was written in 1956 I'd have said it was by some 1970s student smoking something more than a cigarette, but hey, the voice of protest lives on....

[stevenj]

It was the swear word that made me say that I understood why they didn't teach it at school! I'd better not say anything to SWMBO about it. I have a feeling that an early bath might follow....