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Perhaps the right time to do a poll on how we would vote? Personally I dont think canvassing or csmpsigns will make any difference. We are all pretty sure of our intentions!
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This is why Corbyn wanted the election before universities broke up.
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Clarion, diddlydo, history is clearly not your forte so one or two bits for you to ponder.
The sale of council houses (something I never agreed with) was originally proposed by Labour in their 1959 manifesto. They lost that election so weren’t able to implement it. The idea was subsequently adopted by the Conservatives and the scheme continued under the following Labour government which made no attempt to abandon it.
The National Health Service was originally a Conservative proposal, the plans for which were drawn up by a Liberal, and adopted and subsequently implemented by a Labour government.
Labour closed far more mines than Mrs Thatcher ever did. The unions held this country to ransom with damaging consequences. Like anything else, if industry becomes unsustainable it suffers.
You both appear to wallow under the delusion that today’s Labour is the party of old – the party of the working man. You know, the one dear old dad and his dear old dad before him voted for. It is not. Corbyn’s Labour is a different animal entirely - one that doesn’t encourage enterprise, that discourages ambition and aspiration, that doesn’t recognise motivation, and that mistakenly believes that one size fits all - especially applying that to the plebs. Make no mistake, in every so called equal Socialist society a hierarchy remains and thrives - and its members are always, but always, far from equal. Four legs good, two legs better.
As much as Labour voters appear to despise business, the truth is that business provides jobs – the fundamental mainstay of our society. Alienate that, as Corbyn intends to, and the result doesn’t have to be spelt out to you - hopefully.
I recall Mr Corbyn saying when he first became leader how he intended building factories and paying workers lucrative rates. Gosh, that raised some cheers! Ohh Jeremy Corbyn, traaa laaa. .... Marvellous. Just one snag. He didn’t tell us where he was going to flog all this stuff in order to raise the money to cover his materials, sustain his factories, and pay his workers their lucrative salaries. The cut-throat competition that is the global market clearly hadn’t occurred to him and the reason it hadn’t occurred to him is that he’s never done a proper job in his life and he doesn’t understand business which, like it or not, is where the wealth of the nation is created, sustained, and augmented. And still people incapable of thinking beyond the vaguest sniff of a promise of free money raining down for all to enjoy, fall for his nonsense.
Diddlydo, any idea how what you see as the ‘well-heeled’ who live in ex-Council houses, buy extensions and new front doors? I’ll tell you. They take responsibility for themselves and as likely as not subscribe diligently to that dirty four-letter word. Work.
Clarion, //you'd bought your council house, you were on your own mate.//
And there we have it. Life doesn’t owe you a living, Clarion. Who do you expect to prop you up?
The sale of council houses (something I never agreed with) was originally proposed by Labour in their 1959 manifesto. They lost that election so weren’t able to implement it. The idea was subsequently adopted by the Conservatives and the scheme continued under the following Labour government which made no attempt to abandon it.
The National Health Service was originally a Conservative proposal, the plans for which were drawn up by a Liberal, and adopted and subsequently implemented by a Labour government.
Labour closed far more mines than Mrs Thatcher ever did. The unions held this country to ransom with damaging consequences. Like anything else, if industry becomes unsustainable it suffers.
You both appear to wallow under the delusion that today’s Labour is the party of old – the party of the working man. You know, the one dear old dad and his dear old dad before him voted for. It is not. Corbyn’s Labour is a different animal entirely - one that doesn’t encourage enterprise, that discourages ambition and aspiration, that doesn’t recognise motivation, and that mistakenly believes that one size fits all - especially applying that to the plebs. Make no mistake, in every so called equal Socialist society a hierarchy remains and thrives - and its members are always, but always, far from equal. Four legs good, two legs better.
As much as Labour voters appear to despise business, the truth is that business provides jobs – the fundamental mainstay of our society. Alienate that, as Corbyn intends to, and the result doesn’t have to be spelt out to you - hopefully.
I recall Mr Corbyn saying when he first became leader how he intended building factories and paying workers lucrative rates. Gosh, that raised some cheers! Ohh Jeremy Corbyn, traaa laaa. .... Marvellous. Just one snag. He didn’t tell us where he was going to flog all this stuff in order to raise the money to cover his materials, sustain his factories, and pay his workers their lucrative salaries. The cut-throat competition that is the global market clearly hadn’t occurred to him and the reason it hadn’t occurred to him is that he’s never done a proper job in his life and he doesn’t understand business which, like it or not, is where the wealth of the nation is created, sustained, and augmented. And still people incapable of thinking beyond the vaguest sniff of a promise of free money raining down for all to enjoy, fall for his nonsense.
Diddlydo, any idea how what you see as the ‘well-heeled’ who live in ex-Council houses, buy extensions and new front doors? I’ll tell you. They take responsibility for themselves and as likely as not subscribe diligently to that dirty four-letter word. Work.
Clarion, //you'd bought your council house, you were on your own mate.//
And there we have it. Life doesn’t owe you a living, Clarion. Who do you expect to prop you up?
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