Hong Kong Riots

[fender62]

i think the riots are getting out of hand now, months and months, if they want independence..it's not going to happe, only that the chinese army will come and crush them, is there one voice who speaks for the rioters, would it not be better to have dialogue and calm.

[Ken4155]

Probably even gone beyond dialogue and calm, now, fender. Particularly after yesterday's 2 incidents. All i can see is many, many arrests/disappearances on China's orders.

[Peter Pedant]

// would it not be better to have dialogue and calm.//
yes of course it would
so that is probably the last thing we will see

you have a big guy ( PRC in case you didnt notice) and the little guy ( er Hong Kong).
and the dialog is : you will damn well do what I want ( big fella speaks)

and the little fella ( HK) goes 'eek!'

[ToraToraTora]

china will at some point do a Tiananmen on them. Very little they could do even if they did not have the puppet leader they have.

[woofgang]

I too think it will get nasty as I said months ago. It depends how much China needs Hong Kong as it is now as a banking and trading outlet....can't see either side backing down though. I think that the dialogue and calm problem is that China won't negotiate and the Hong Kong faction know this

[Peter Pedant]

if you dont hang together
by god you will hang separately !

the Hong Kongers are relying on - well they cant put us all in prison !
but they did that to the Uighurs ( not Han - muslim) minority - one or two million
we know NOTHING about

[Peter Pedant]

how history changes behaviour !

the Chinese university - now occupied by the police - used to be able to field thousands of students all shouting and waving their little red books demanding freedom ( is that 'heu-pay'? ) from the then Governor
( 1968 )

[woofgang]

I also think that the Hong Kongers are relying on the eye of the world....I really really hope its enough!

[davebro]

If China gives in to the Hong Kong protests then they will have to abandon any claims to Taiwan - it's not going to happen.

[Old_Geezer]

Why keep a claim going if you're not going to act on it ?

[Old_Geezer]

China could do with the Chinese equivalent of a Yeltsin or Gorbachev. As long as there's no Chinese Putin waiting in the wings.

[lindapalmara]

I lived in HK in the 80's when the documents were signed and it was called the Basic Law whereby HK was handed over China but kept its democracy for 50 years. China signed up for this.

[woofgang]

yup and we all knew they were laughing as they did it.