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sp1814 | 14:52 Sun 05th Apr 2020 | News
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Some are denouncing the closure of parks:

https://www.express.co.uk/celebrity-news/1265146/Laurence-Fox-Twitter-coronavirus-council-park-closed-backlash-news-latest-update

Some say that it's okay to sunbathe when you're ten feet away from the next group:

https://www.express.co.uk/celebrity-news/1265175/Piers-Morgan-Lord-Sugar-Twitter-coronavirus-sunbathing-disgrace-UK-news-latest-update

If you go out with people from your own household and do not interact with anyone else, how will this lead to the spread of Covid-19?
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I think a part of the no barbecuing/sunbathing and so on rules is that it takes space away from others. If people are keeping moving they are actually out for less time andf aren't "stealing" time outside from others. If you stop in one place, assuming you have taken your legitimate exercise to get there and will do so to get home, then your sitting/lying around...
16:04 Sun 05th Apr 2020
// How will this lead to the spread of Covid-19 ? //

Not sun bathing or outdoor exercise will lead to rickets. When you go to A&E With rickets, There will be a lot ofold people breathing on you, and you will quickly die.

I’m a little surprised at your comment TTT, as I thought you worked in banking, and by dint of that assumed you understood economics.

I’m in finance and am considered a key worker, because the wheels of commerce absolutely must continue to turn. Anybody who isn’t considering the economy at the the moment, like Zacs-master, is a fool.
^^^by the way, it’s the Government who considers me a key worker.
If you want to sunbathe or barbecue most people have a back garden, if you havent do something else that doesnt involve putting other people at risk.
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"most people have a back garden"

Hmm...
I'm lucky, I do have a spacious back garden. jno jnr is on the 11th floor of a block of flats and doesn't. (He has a smashing view, to compensate.) I dare say he's not the only one.
//I think the idea of stopping people travelling any distance in cars is to prevent them taking the virus from one area to another.//

And it's also to lessen the possibility of having a Road Traffic Accident where the emergency services and medical facilities will have to treat you rather than virus victims.

There are many aspects of this lockdown that have not been properly thought through and seem to have been written on the bag of a fag packet over a pint in the pub (before they were closed down). They are not going to be able to keep people at home in this way for any length of time. Come May or soon after people will have been locked down for six weeks or more, the weather will be considerably warmer, the days longer, the infection rate will still be on the up (because unless they choose to die of starvation, most people simply cannot help but mix with others) and many people will be asking themselves what the point of it all is.

Then there is the point made by DeskDiary. The economy by that time will be in absolute ruins, many small businesses will have gone to the wall never to reopen. The current strategy means that, one way or another, this will not end well unless the virus simply "dies out" - and there's not much to suggest that is likely.
NJ, the other hope is that a vaccine will be formulated and distributed. I wouldn't get my hopes up that this will happen soon, but it will happen.
Lack of Vitamin D is going to become a problem if this goes on.
When the economy is broken there will be suicides, hunger, abuse.
Most accidents happen in the home. Best get folk out safe and onto the near deserted roads where the risk of an accident is greatly reduced.

These excuses get less and less believable as authorities get more desperate to justify the overreaction. They should concentrate on those flouting the 2m rule and forming groups, not look for easy low hanging fruit tackling folk acting responsibly.

David Davis made some good points recently.
Any vaccine is likely to take months to test unless they're intending to lower medical ethics and just use it and hope.
// If you want to sunbathe or barbecue most people have a back garden //

A lot do, a lot don’t.
If you live in a city, or a large town, the chances are you live in a high-rise, and your only outdoor space is a common Area or local park.
Today I have entertained a guest in my small garden, who has no such private space. We drank a bottle of red in the evening sunshine, and all was good with the world.
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NJ makes some valid points there. At some point we're going to have to decide between the actual health of the country and the financial health.
Cloverjo, when the window tax came into force around 1700, many people blocked up their windows (you can still see them in old houses), and the result was a rise in illnesses like rickets, resulting from lack of Vitamin D.
10 to 15 minutes exposure is enough to avoid rickets, slightly longer if you have a darker skin. There are also vitamin supplements. I agree its not ideal but its doable. sticking arms and legs out an open window is a possibility. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/may/30/get-out-in-the-sun-for-your-vitamin-d
JNO, I thought you couldn't get vit d from sunlight through glass? If you can though then you wouldn't have to stick limbs out of an open window, just stand or sit by the window?
the information came from Peter Pedant a while ago, and he's good on history/health stuff. (I suppose it's possible people in olden times opened their windows more than we do, as a cheap alternative to carrying nosegays around all day.)
//Today I have entertained a guest in my small garden,//

You're not following the rules then, gromit?
Well said Naomi (shock, horror we agree again!). There's another person on this site who has admitted to having a friend round at the weekend but that they sat 6 feet apart. That does NOT make it OK.
Surprised you admitted that on here Gromit!

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