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ummmm | 08:05 Mon 08th Jun 2020 | Technology
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What to look for?

I've broken mine and it won't charge. I doubt it's worth getting it fixed.

What do I look for in a new one? I only use it for browsing the internet...sites like this site, FB, Amazon etc...

Rarely watch movies or listen to music on it.
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Good morning ummmm, I have a Lenova Ideapad which is just ideal for browsing but I also have a chromebook, I find the sound quality better on the chromebook for zoom and video calls or even listening to music, it is faster to start up and I don't have to put up with configuring updates and waiting to turn off computer etc., the Lenova is great for windows and using office etc., if it is just for the browsing you are suggesting, I would go for the chromebook
May we ask you to define broken and how it was damaged as it may be possible to resurrect it. Buenchico does have a link to a company selling used computers if you cant stretch to a new one.
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Cheers, Ducksie :-)

I've dropped it quite a few times (it's fell off the sofa) and where it plugs in is broken. The screen also has two cracks in it and a little bit shattered off screen, just below the time.
I know someone who has a HP chromebook and he loves it.
>>> Buenchico does have a link to a company selling used computers if you cant stretch to a new one.

Yup, I do. It's the firm that I buy from, it's the firm that I've bought stuff on behalf of friends from and it's the firm that I've recommended countless times on here (with nothing but positive feedback from AB members who've then gone on to make purchases from there):
https://accomputerwarehouse.com/product-category/cheap-refurbished-laptops-uk/

Any of the laptops shown there would meet your very basic needs easily enough. Look a solid state drive (SSD), at least 4GB of RAM and an i5, or faster, processor. (i3 is slower, i7 is faster). The ProBook 6470b, at £175, should be absolutely fine. (The Elitebook 820, at £199 is slimmer and lighter but at the expense of not having a CD/DVD drive, which you might find useful if you want to play discs). Shipping is free if you use their 3 to 5 day service (or £10.95 if you need it faster).

Whenever considering a refurbished laptop though (irrespective of who the seller is) you need to remember that batteries are normally regarded as expendable items, so the one that will come with your laptop might not hold a full charge. That's obviously not a problem if you'll only be using the laptop via its mains charger unit but otherwise you'll need to add a bit more onto your budget to allow for a new battery. (AC Computer Warehouse never ship out laptops with really duff batteries though; they'll always hold a decent bit of charge. A spare battery for the ProBook 6470b costs £16.99, post free, on Amazon: https://tinyurl.com/ybhdtbuh )
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Cheers, Chris.

My nephew just said chromebooks are really good as well. I'll see what OH says when he gets home :-)
Why not get a tablet if all you're doing is browsing?
Handy. I reckon I might need a new(second hand) one soon.
Got some cheap ink coming today. They claimed it would work in a HP printer. Guess we'll find out later.
>>> My nephew just said chromebooks are really good as well

It's 'horses for courses', I suppose.

I wouldn't tough a Chromebook with an infinite number of the proverbial bargepoles! They're designed around the principle that you'll always have internet access and will store everything 'in the cloud', rather than on the actual machine. They also assume that you'll only want to use the services of Google (who manufacturer them, and of no other company). The Chrome operating system they use is basically a fork of the Android system on a mobile phone which, while fast and snappy, doesn't really offer the full flexibility of Windows.
Does it matter much if you get Windows7...8...or 10, d'you reckon?
I was looking around this morning and 7's seemed a lot cheaper than 10's but you can't upgrade them or get some safety features, I think.
Like, W7 won't just 'fade away' in a year or two, will it?
^^^ Windows 7 is no longer supported by Microsoft, Spicerack, so that means that Windows 7 machines are theoretically more vulnerable to attacks from ransomware, etc.

That doesn't mean that everyone using Windows 7 needs to panic though; I'm typing this on a Windows 7 machine right now and there are still quite a few AB members using Windows XP. (However it was Windows XP machines that got hit by the ransomware attack that caused the NHS massive problems a couple of years ago, so the possibility of something nasty happening with an unsupported operating system certainly can't be ruled out).

Much as I love Windows 7, I'm forced to accept that I'll have to opt for Windows 10 (even if I'm seeking a refurbished machine) when I come to update my computer. As that means that my film scanner, design tablet and much of my software will no longer be compatible, it'll end up costing me far more to replace all that stuff than it will to buy the new computer!

There is actually still a free way to upgrade Windows 7 machines to Windows 10 (despite Microsoft officially having dropped that option some time back), simply by using some free software (such as Belarc Advisor) to find out the licence key for Windows 7, downloading and installing the upgrade for Windows 10 and then entering the old licence key number when requested for a new one (which Microsoft now want you to pay mega-bucks for). However the hardware on many Windows 7 machines isn't really up to running Windows 10, so switching to the newer operating system can slow some computers to a crawl.

Microsoft's support for Windows 8 doesn't run out until January 2023 but it was an appalling version of Windows anyway and remains to be avoided at all costs.
Just as a side issue fixing the faults you mention is neither difficult, see youtube videos, or that expensive but probably not that financially viable.
Cheers, chris. Think I'll spend a bit extra getting W10 now. I'm no good with faffing about. I remember people saying not to get W10 or upgrade to it when it came out.
But I'm like ummmm. Don't intend doing anything fancy on it.
I only browse etc and when my laptop broke down several years ago, I replaced it with a Toshiba Chromebook.
For my purposes the Chromebook is excellent.
I much prefer it to a laptop.
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Zacs - we have a Kindle Fire HD thing which is good but OH uses it. I want my own one :-)

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