Is This Necessary?

[david small]

The spraying and wiping down of tables and chairs outside with anti-bacteria solution. After every single use. Isn’t this a tad excessive as I’ve read the virus is not normally know to infect from chairs etc outside exposed to sunlight etc.

[jno]

SharonA, there were reports saying sunlight could kill the virus

https://www.mirror.co.uk/science/strong-sunlight-can-kill-coronavirus-22243197

[gulliver1]

You should have told them to wash their hands before stroking your cockers.

[woofgang]

That LBC one goes off in two directions....it talks about antibacterial gel then goes on to talk about alcohol gel. They are not necessarily the same thing. The stuff that people are using on tables and chairs might well be antiviral. Bulk antiviral spray is not expensive...its not even expensive in handbag/pocket sized sprays or in bulk packs of wipes. The ones I have simply say that the solution has to stay in contact with the skin or hard surface (yes its multi use) for one minute to be effective.

[david small]

So there is no rule to Continually do this chair wiping. Maybe just a recommendation? Seems a little unnecessary to me.

[aelmpvw]

looking at covid figures in the USA i'm not convinced that sunlight is helping in the battle

[woofgang]

the rule says that surfaces should be cleaned between customers and in view of customers. It doesn't specify with what.

[10ClarionSt]

I haven't taken any precautions at all throughout this lockdown. If people want to swerve out of my way in the street, that's ok but I never do the same. I don't use any of the sprays etc; never worn a face cover or gloves either.

People may remember the scare about the AIDS virus back in the 80's. Ads all over the place saying how deadly and dangerous it was, but, as it was virus, it needs a host and can only live outside that host for a maximum of 15 seconds. Transmission was by close and/or intimate contact. Not on surfaces of anything. So what's different about this virus? It's a virus. Have viruses advanced so much in 35 years that they can live for 72 hours outside a host?

[Atheist]

10C. I think viruses can be very different from each other. If you're 100% sure of your science then continue as you are; if not then please have a thought for others and act as though you might be wrong. Better safe than sorry.

[10ClarionSt]

Throughout this lockdown, there has been a prevalence of nannyism and nursemaid types, saying things that such people, and mothers, used to say and treating everyone like 5 year olds. They are then full of self-congratulations "because we care". It's sickening and annoying at the same time. Patronisation all over the place. Pass the sick bag please. Oh better not. It might have a virus.

The things about viruses in the virus in the 80's are not my facts. They were included in lots of media reports at the time.

[jno]

Clarion, viruses do indeed mutate all the time. That's why they have to come up with a new flu vaccine every year or two.

[iluvmargie]

18:54 how would I know you had three cocker spaniels??

[ABerrant]

"Clarion, viruses do indeed mutate all the time. That's why they have to come up with a new flu vaccine every year or two."

New flu vaccines are designed every year based on WHO guidance (i.e. best guess of the many candidate strains likely to take hold within each hemisphere's flu season).

https://www.who.int/influenza/vaccines/virus/recommendations/2020-21_north/en/

https://www.who.int/influenza/vaccines/virus/recommendations/2019_20_north/en/

It is possible to completely miss the prevalent strains, as in 2017-18

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/flu-vaccine-effectiveness-in-2017-to-2018-season

https://www.google.com/search?q=flu+vaccine+ineffective

[pixie374]

Shoota, can I stroke your cockers?
You would expect everything to be cleaned between customers anyway. Anti-bac doesn't sound helpful against a virus.

[MynameisLuca]

I agree with 10C.
No matter how much of a clean up you do the virus can still land on surfices after you've wiped down.

[MynameisLuca]

Without anyone touching it.

[Mamyalynne]

Any establishment that practises good hygiene is bound to be attractive to customers.

[AZardoz]

This thread is funnier than most of those in "Jokes".

Back in the day, it was common for a mother to spit on a handkerchief to wipe a child's face, if nothing else was available.
Wet-wipes were a much later invention.

[Mamyalynne]

Aye, back in t'day when we had some left over lino on table but it were clean.

[MynameisLuca]

I think most places have/had good hygiene standards before COVID came along, otherwise they would have been shut down.