What Will The Next U-Turn Be?

[diddlydo]

How many more things can this government get wrong? Will they ever admit their mistakes? I doubt it.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/19/covid-19-climbdowns-the-uk-governments-u-turns-and-missteps

[Jackdaw33]

Don't forget that all this is from the Grauniad, the thinking man's toilet paper.

[naomi24]

^Unless Covid19 is the only consideration, that question is entirely irrational.

[naomi24]

^That was to Jim.

[jim360]

Not really: presumably the choice we make in an election is also about choosing the Government we think will react best to unforeseen circumstances. If the argument is that every Government will react the same way to the unforeseen then, in the first place, that's clearly wrong: a Government's reaction is, after all, going to be shaped by its politics.

Really, that's my point: defending the Government from their reaction on the sole grounds that any other government would have been the same either makes the Government irrelevant or ignores the differences, and is so flawed as a defence. Unprecedented or not, there were different ways to react to Covid-19, and a Government can therefore, and should therefore, be held accountable for their decisions.

[pixie374]

We also have no way of knowing how other governments might have reacted, or whether they would have been better or worse. So, it's all a little irrelevant really. Just speculation.

[naomi24]

Jim, //presumably the choice we make in an election is also about choosing the Government we think will react best to unforeseen circumstances.//

I don’t think unforeseen circumstances are ever a consideration. People vote for those they think will run the country in the way they prefer it to be run.

[youngmafbog]

I suspect by the time the next election comes things will have settled and many will have forgotten much of this.

The problem in the last election who in their right mind would think COB would have done better? So by jims thinking it is no wonder BoJo won hands down.

[jim360]

Depends on how long the economic recovery takes, I suppose.

// The problem in the last election who in their right mind would think [Corbyn] would have done better? So by jim's thinking it is no wonder BoJo won hands down.//

Who can say whether Labour would have been any better? My point, though, would still stand -- they would, at least to an extent, have responded differently. If so, is that not enough to argue that we can still be critical of this Government for its actions?

Besides, I'd like to think that we can hold our leaders to higher standards than merely outperforming Corbyn.

[naomi24]

Jim, //they would, at least to an extent, have responded differently. //

You have no idea how they would have responded.

[ynnafymmi]

You should thank your lucky stars you dont live up here in Scotland,Diddly,the nationalist government up here makes Bojos lot look like the wisest of the wise.

[ladybirder]

Diddly please don't worry yourself. I have no doubt at all that whatever the government does you will find something about it to moan about. Fear not:-)

[Peter Pedant]

// Unless covid is the consideration, this answer is entirely irrational //

no need to comment - this is AB ! ter daah

I have seen bigger U turns on AB whilst there are shouts of - "look everybody I am not u-turning!"

you can walk straight down a school corridor wivvart a mask
OK you can walk straight down a school corridor WIVVA mask

is a u-turn of sorts if you want to call it that

o god

[Peter Pedant]

yeah Jim
some quite subtle points ignored by the usual thinkers

if corbyn said - we would have done x
would he have done x really if he had been in power?

aristotle - modal logic may be of help
( or Lukasciewicz)

[goodlife]

Do really want know, the Bible can give the answer. (Jer 10:23)

[ynnafymmi]

Perhaps,Goodlife,the parable about Onan would explain some of Bojos government and some of Wee Burneys lot?

[Theland]

In my opinion, ( and I know you a slathering for my opinion),
''A bit of quiet for the artiste, the Theland is going to perform for us,'

Now then, I think the problems facing Boris are bigger than any politician could cope with successfully, so he has to do his best, which means there will inevitably be failures and U turns.
But, the question has to be asked, ''Who could do it better, in p!ace of Boris, at this time?''
Please submit some names.
I, as a lifelong Labour voter, was glad that Boris won and is now PM, as I cringe at the thought of what would have happened if COB was in number 10.
Open borders? Handcuff the police under the leadership of DA?
Dawn Butler? Lammy?
(Oh I shudder at the thought).

Thank you thank you thank you ( he !eaves to deafening applause )