Looks Like I Was Right Again

[teacake44]

I did say a few weeks ago when the government relaxed holiday travel abroad, that we would see planes coming back to the UK full of covid cases, well we've seen the first TIU flight. And that's the one we know about.??

[Peter Pedant]

the data is out there ness
all you have to do is.... read it

[Bobbisox1]

You're a pensioner Mr Teacake, you shop for all the cut price food stuffs don't you, that's hardly keeping the wheels of commerce going now is it?

[sherrardk]

In 2016, the ONS reckoned that 18% of the population was 65 or over. So you reckon that that 18% keep the country going - including the impoverished ones, the frail, the ones in care homes, etc? There are bound to be well off pensioners but they are in the minority. Yet again, it’s the younger ones (ie not pensioners) who are keeping the economy going.

[gulliver1]

Well some pensioners keep the economy going at £39 a bottle.

[Bobbisox1]

Does Mummy know you're downstairs Gully?

[teacake44]

Well there you go, you've not got a clue, the food industry get there costs back instead of it being binned. keep up. Now time for my tot of full price brandy. nitie nitie everyone.

[gness]

So you’ve changed from no under fifties to almost none. Even that is incorrect.
Take the time, Peter to look at the figures. Not that it will stop you spouting ill informed waffle.

[New Judge]

//When presented with a figure of 9 infected people on a plane of 193 ( NJs figures) all of a sudden the goal posts are moved,//

No they haven’t. There are outbreaks all over the place al the time. There have been dozens of outbreaks in food processing plants. Banham Poultry in Attleborough, Norfolk, has one of the most recent outbreaks, with 75 workers testing positive. These outbreaks don’t “move the goal posts.” They are part of the ongoing management of the disease. It makes far more sense to ban all movement in and out of Attleborough than it does to impose a quarantine on people returning from Zante.

The disease is now affecting predominantly young and non-vulnerable people. Yesterday there was just one death from Covid. The average daily number of deaths is now 10 – about the same number as die on the roads. Almost 2,000 people die daily in the UK so quite why the cause of 0.05% of those deaths should be “cause for alarm” is very puzzling. Of course the issue needs managing – as do all health issues – but the measures being taken at present to “keep us safe” are simply insane.

[andres]

There might have only been a handful of positive cases on that plane but all the passengers and crew have been told that they have to isolate for 14days. This virus should not be dismissed lightly.

[teacake44]

NJ, your comments @ 14.02 and 22.18 are just proving the point I've been trying to make from the beginning about plane travel being high risk, for no good reason other than a holiday. 200 cases in the whole of Greece in the last seven days. 300 cases in Birmingham in the last seven days, but we get 16 cases out of 193 returning to the UK on one plane, how many more ( thousand ) people are going to return over the coming weeks? that's a very high percentage level of infection that could be stopped. You have over the last few months been keen to show infection percentages from the very beginning of this virus to play it down, and overall I agree with you. The outbreaks you refer to at food plants and other areas are vital to keep the country feed and watered, and are dealt with, and locked down or stopped completely. Holiday infected planes are not vital at this time and could be stopped. It sticks out like a sore thumb that infection spreads on a plane, and has plenty of time to do so with an average time of a 4 hour flight.

[teacake44]

More cases of infection reported on TV news this morning in Wales and Scotland, all from flights from Greece, so yes, plane loads of infection still to arrive. Back to the same situation of a few months ago??