Bbc Pro Democrats ?

[fender62]

trump or not to trump, but i have noticed a slant in the bbc.. to be more biden in there coverage, almost like he has won...sleepy old joe..libs socialists woke bame...whats not to love, in the end, it will be his second in command...

[tiggerblue10]

Wait another 4 years and we'll have Kanye West to choose from ;o)

[jim360]

Ah, in that case you're busy confusing the "last election" with the 2016 election, which wasn't the last election.

[jim360]

Indeed, it seems even worse: you're confusing the 2016 local elections with the 2017 General Election. There were three polls prior to 2016's locals that saw Labour slightly ahead, but that quickly vanished (Brexit-related energy I expect), and the Tories were regularly hitting 10-20 point leads in late 2016 and early 2017.

Moreover, there's also a major error of interpretation. Labour being ahead by 1-3 points is not necessarily the same as Labour winning a majority of seats in Parliament. Indeed, it doesn't even mean winning more seats than the Tories.

There was no poll in the run-up to the 2019 or 2017 elections (ie, the previous three months) that predicted a Labour absolute majority.

[Khandro]

jim: I remember it being mooted in the last election too, I can't be bothered looking & it doesn't serve my point, the thought of it sent a shiver down my spine. In the bottom of that article there was another, later BMG poll, which had him ahead, & there was a body of the mentally-challenged who would have liked that - even wanting MacDonnell in #11 !

[jim360]

I don't think it says much for any argument if getting the facts right "doesn't serve [the] point".

Still, I can sympathise with the idea that Trump's chances in 2020 are better than they appear. Whether this is because they are materially better, or because he's managed to create an image of just not losing, I wouldn't care to say. In either case, I will believe a Biden victory when I see it, and not before.

And, besides, fivethirtyeight currently gives Trump a 10% chance of victory. 1 in 10 events still can happen, so I wouldn't be completely shocked if things break Trump's way just enough for him to overcome the popular vote deficit.

[THECORBYLOON]

This link shows that every poll from August 2019 had the Tories ahead.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2019_United_Kingdom_general_election

[ichkeria]

I misread Khandro’s post and thought he was taking about US polls!
Certainly there was no suggestion that Corbyn would win in 2019.
The “seat by seat” predictor by one polling organisation was pretty accurate.

[jackthehat]

Funny how 'the right' believe that the BBC is slanted against DJT......whilst 'the left' believe the exact opposite.

For those of us somewhere 'in the middle' (in terms of the American Election) it seems that the BBC are being even-handed....

[youngmafbog]

Rather then polls I think it was MSM articles like this one:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/12/10/tuesday-morning-news-briefing-jeremycorbyn-could-win-election/

[Peter Pedant]

god the original post reads as tho I might written it in my sleep !

the nub is The Beeb likes Biden no?
[rather than: "the beeb no likes Biden"
or
the Beeb bids for Biden, unbidden - yes? ( no not yes, by gum!)


I think they are hedging ( the Beeb that is!) because Hillary got more votes ( as predicted within 0.1% apparently but still lost which was unforeseen) - and they are not sure if it will be repeated

I get upset that no one challenges what Trump says
drs get more money if you die from covid....
erm no - the fees stop, so that is most unlikely

bt hell - this agony will be soon requited

[jim360]

As far as I can see, ymb's article is based on a Tory memo discussing a hypothetical scenario, which isn't remotely the same as Khandro's claim earlier.

[Peter Pedant]

hi Jim did you ever do that stuff for TTT
re quqntum mechanics

[jim360]

Not yet, I've been very distracted these last few days. I probably ought to at some point, given that it would give me something to focus on that isn't the *** state of the world ...

[DTCwordfan]

they're aligning with the probable winner.....Good luck, Donald when you see these numbers.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/31/us-election-polls-tracker-who-is-leading-in-swing-states-trump-or-biden
and don't ignore the biggest state in terms of electoral seats - https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/california/

More importantly, look at the VPs as there's a good chance that either nominee could pop their clogs - they ought to change the Constitution to a minimum of 35 and a maximum of 67 on entering office for their first election....second terms allowed.