Was Anne Boylen Black?

[webbo3]

Rewriting history for the sake of diversity, perhaps Davis Jason could play Nelson Mandela.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-film-boleyn/black-actor-turner-smith-to-play-english-queen-anne-boleyn-in-new-drama-idUKKBN27F26W

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tv/13065809/channel-5-race-row-black-actress-play-anne-boleyn/

[royfromaus]

Well, once again luckily enough for andy and his unfounded accusation (lie) has been removed. Saves backing it up I suppose.

Would you adam and eve it?

[webbo3]

Who's offended?

[Mozz71]

Question to anyone taking umbridge with this: What foes it really matter? Would you be offended if she had the wrong hair colour? Was the wrong height or weight?

[andy-hughes]

Ellipsis - // Amazing the tiny things that people will take great offence at, isn't it? //

That's the wonderful mystery of human nature - one man's tiny thing is another man's offence - just as one man's legitiate question is another man' s invitation to a fight, but let's not go down that path again!

[andy-hughes]

Mozz - //
Question to anyone taking umbridge with this: What foes it really matter? Would you be offended if she had the wrong hair colour? Was the wrong height or weight? //

The subject of actors playing roles that do not confirm with their ethncitiy is one that has been debated on here many times, this is just one more example.

I find the notion interesting, but some people appear uncomfortable with an actor not playing within their ethnic range - hence this thread - well, most of it anyway!!

[woofgang]

I am really not sure about Dolores playing Anne though :)

[DTCwordfan]

I need new glasses - I read 'David Jason' playing Nelson Mandela.....who's going to play Rodney Mkebo?

[woofgang]

Denzil :)

[DTCwordfan]

Denzil Washington? I thought he was playing Donald Trump....and Dame Darcey Bussell to play Archbish Tutu.

[woofgang]

no DTC DENZIL! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denzil_Tulser

[DTCwordfan]

well then, I nominate Ainsley Harriott to play Archbish Tutu, both smoke and mirrors when it comes to cooking the populace at large.

[allenlondon]

All women are at a disadvantage in life. In the 16th century, being a woman at court must have been even worse than being a peasant’s wife.

Strikes me that black women too are doubly disadvantaged - as women, and as black women!

[andy-hughes]

allen - // All women are at a disadvantage in life. In the 16th century, being a woman at court must have been even worse than being a peasant’s wife.

Strikes me that black women too are doubly disadvantaged - as women, and as black women! //

I am not a historian, but the present Mrs Hughes is, and on enquiring, I am advised that the position of a woman at court depended largely on a combination of her connections - either inherited or created, and her ability to use them to advance her position.

[allenlondon]

And to marry whoever men chose, and (in Henry VIII’s case), to be murdered at a husband’s whim.

My point is that ‘courtly’ women were in a double bind, and there are parallels to black women today, fighting racial prejudice and exploitation as women.

I would not have wanted to be a woman then, nor now.

[andy-hughes]

allen - // nd to marry whoever men chose, and (in Henry VIII’s case), to be murdered at a husband’s whim.

My point is that ‘courtly’ women were in a double bind, and there are parallels to black women today, fighting racial prejudice and exploitation as women.

I would not have wanted to be a woman then, nor now. //

I take your point - I guess as well as a matter of connections and ability as I mentioned, it was also a matter of chance as to which man (always more powerful of course) decided to change the course of a woman's life for better or worse.