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I get a little sick of some that seem to think that it is the well off, or ones that are retired and have a safe income that really want to keep the lock down in place at the cost to others that need to earn a living.
Well let me make my case perfectly clear, ( I don't for one) Reason, I have two married daughters and both have suffered financial hardship due to covid, and still are, without going into details.
My comfortable income ( and its not massive) has been helping them all through, and still is, I don't need all of my income, so to all the ones that keep slagging the retired off, remember that its not just me that's helping family get past this financial nightmare, there is sure to be many more. I'm stopping them getting into debt!! they don't have to pay me back.
At the same time I would welcome the end has soon as possible, i believe everyone should learn to stand on their own two feet, but this situation has been off the scale.
Well let me make my case perfectly clear, ( I don't for one) Reason, I have two married daughters and both have suffered financial hardship due to covid, and still are, without going into details.
My comfortable income ( and its not massive) has been helping them all through, and still is, I don't need all of my income, so to all the ones that keep slagging the retired off, remember that its not just me that's helping family get past this financial nightmare, there is sure to be many more. I'm stopping them getting into debt!! they don't have to pay me back.
At the same time I would welcome the end has soon as possible, i believe everyone should learn to stand on their own two feet, but this situation has been off the scale.
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I quite agree, tc.
I am what might be termed “comfortably off” and Covid has made very little difference to my finances. The only reason I am slightly better off is because there has been less for me to spend my money on. But that said, I’d sooner have been able to spend it because that’s what it’s for.
There are many people in the older age groups who are sick to the back teeth of this continual “lock, unlock, Tiers” malarky. Many of them have no wish to live the way they are currently being forced to and given the choice between getting out and about – and facing the small chance they may contract the virus – or remaining “shielded” they would prefer the former. Their idea of living is not to simply remain alive at any cost.
The cost of this pandemic (or at least the cost of dealing with it in the way the government has chosen) will undoubtedly be visited on the young. Many of them have lost their jobs and may be unlikely to find another any time soon. Many of those lucky enough to keep their jobs have seen their hours cut - especially those in the hospitality sector. The very young have had their education interrupted, some of them with serious consequences.
That said, I don't think there is a clear cut distinction between the the “lockdown” and “no lockdown” camps based solely on finances. I know a few young people who will not venture out under any circumstances and are happy to remain that way “until the virus is eliminated" (they’re in for a long wait, vaccine or no vaccine). I know many older people who have been living their lives as normally as they are allowed to and can’t wait to see an end to restrictions. Whether the split is clear cut across the financial divide is harder to fathom. Everybody has their own reasons for holding the views that they do and nobody should really be slagged off for holding them. But that doesn’t mean there is no room for robust discussion!
I am what might be termed “comfortably off” and Covid has made very little difference to my finances. The only reason I am slightly better off is because there has been less for me to spend my money on. But that said, I’d sooner have been able to spend it because that’s what it’s for.
There are many people in the older age groups who are sick to the back teeth of this continual “lock, unlock, Tiers” malarky. Many of them have no wish to live the way they are currently being forced to and given the choice between getting out and about – and facing the small chance they may contract the virus – or remaining “shielded” they would prefer the former. Their idea of living is not to simply remain alive at any cost.
The cost of this pandemic (or at least the cost of dealing with it in the way the government has chosen) will undoubtedly be visited on the young. Many of them have lost their jobs and may be unlikely to find another any time soon. Many of those lucky enough to keep their jobs have seen their hours cut - especially those in the hospitality sector. The very young have had their education interrupted, some of them with serious consequences.
That said, I don't think there is a clear cut distinction between the the “lockdown” and “no lockdown” camps based solely on finances. I know a few young people who will not venture out under any circumstances and are happy to remain that way “until the virus is eliminated" (they’re in for a long wait, vaccine or no vaccine). I know many older people who have been living their lives as normally as they are allowed to and can’t wait to see an end to restrictions. Whether the split is clear cut across the financial divide is harder to fathom. Everybody has their own reasons for holding the views that they do and nobody should really be slagged off for holding them. But that doesn’t mean there is no room for robust discussion!
I agree, nj. I think the biggest problem, is no individual choice. Even people at the most risk, might still prefer to see families, than not.
I'm all for relaxing restrictions, for other people's benefit really. Financially, in the private sector, we have done better due to covid grants etc. But it is affecting other people.
I'm all for relaxing restrictions, for other people's benefit really. Financially, in the private sector, we have done better due to covid grants etc. But it is affecting other people.
I can only speak as I find, sqad.
There's a coupe of issues those findings (leaving aside that I am wary of the results of any survey sponsored by the government which shows support for government policies).
It seems very likely that many people who "believe in lockdown" are not practicing it properly themselves. In particular people are mixing households all over the place - indoors and outside - and I can't believe all those I see doing so are in the 30% that oppose the government's decision. But the second is that I don't think people really have a handle on just how damaging and costly this strategy will turn out to be. Won't go into all that now as it's been aired enough. Suffice it to say that in a year's time when, hopefully, things are a little more sane, that damage and those costs are likely to become evident. And they will impact on every sector of society, young and old, rich and poor, healthy or unwell. In the words of a well known "B" movie actor-turned-US-President "you ain't seen nothing yet!" That will be the time to take another poll to see who thought the government was right or not.
There's a coupe of issues those findings (leaving aside that I am wary of the results of any survey sponsored by the government which shows support for government policies).
It seems very likely that many people who "believe in lockdown" are not practicing it properly themselves. In particular people are mixing households all over the place - indoors and outside - and I can't believe all those I see doing so are in the 30% that oppose the government's decision. But the second is that I don't think people really have a handle on just how damaging and costly this strategy will turn out to be. Won't go into all that now as it's been aired enough. Suffice it to say that in a year's time when, hopefully, things are a little more sane, that damage and those costs are likely to become evident. And they will impact on every sector of society, young and old, rich and poor, healthy or unwell. In the words of a well known "B" movie actor-turned-US-President "you ain't seen nothing yet!" That will be the time to take another poll to see who thought the government was right or not.
16.22 Well means you don't get the gist of it let me try., although I'm pretty sure you've seen more than one post on here calling the retired/ well off /comfortable, whatever you would care to call it over the past few months as selfish because they are only calling for further lock downs because their income is secure.
My point is that these so called selfish folk are more than likely helping support the financial problems of their close family, so why on earth would they want to continue with lock downs knowing its destroying their families future regardless of the emergency funding being given at present,. Emergency funding is only getting them past a situation, not sound future prospects.
Regarding who wouldn't help their family is not really the issue or the point I was really making, Just making very clear to the accusers to think what their saying is completely wrong. Who in there right might mind would wish lock down, or any such restrictions to continue. And no I'm not going to sit here scrolling for the posts that have said it. Hope this helps?
My point is that these so called selfish folk are more than likely helping support the financial problems of their close family, so why on earth would they want to continue with lock downs knowing its destroying their families future regardless of the emergency funding being given at present,. Emergency funding is only getting them past a situation, not sound future prospects.
Regarding who wouldn't help their family is not really the issue or the point I was really making, Just making very clear to the accusers to think what their saying is completely wrong. Who in there right might mind would wish lock down, or any such restrictions to continue. And no I'm not going to sit here scrolling for the posts that have said it. Hope this helps?
And just to add, although I don't really care about giving out at the moment, I really don't want it to get to the point ( should it get any worse) that savings have to get nibbled at, the latter helps one sleep at night. My thinking is that it may go on for another 6 months, once the vaccines kick in, then we will cope with it as we do with the flu, or with luck it will be better than the flu vaccine.
Good for you tea cake. I’m in a similar situation. My daughter didn’t know how she was going to get through this latest lockdown. Thank god for mum and dad bank. Otherwise she was on the verge of packing in her business. That would have resulted in 5 people on the dole. We are not rich, but got a few thousand in savings.
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