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� � � as you can see it works! Thanks for putting me out of my misery
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OK so I'm guilty of showing off !! Rogerr - this all started on yesterday's 'Riddles' Q280676 when I innocently used the � symbol - now I'm paying the price!
Anyway, as I understand it, the character set we all use consists of 256 symbols, most of which you will recognize as alphabetical or numeric as shown on your keyboard. However, it's sometimes useful to get to the hidden ones, either for special effects ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ or for serious stuff √ � ♂ ♀ Σ, etc.
To gain access hold down the ALT key (don't let go), then press "1" on your Numeric Keypad on the right hand side (it won't work with the normal numerals above QWERTY). Now release the ALT key, hey presto! ☺☺☺☺☺
ALT 0189 = �, ALT 14 = ♫, ALT 225 = �, and so on.
If you have the patience you could make up a list and print out a table for reference, or refer to the back of an old DOS manual, or search the Internet - I can't remember whether these are called ASCI or ANSI character sets. I do know that if someone in Brazil for example is reading this message, the characters are unlikely to appear the same as in the UK because they would probably be using a different character set and the codes wouldn't all match up.
Of course if you are writing a letter in MS Word then you don't need to faff about like this - just click on 'Insert' at the top of your screen then select 'Symbol'. You'll see all the character sets and their options. Now why didn't I think of that . . . .
Regards also to Alibobs and Se�or Crofter. ja
Anyway, as I understand it, the character set we all use consists of 256 symbols, most of which you will recognize as alphabetical or numeric as shown on your keyboard. However, it's sometimes useful to get to the hidden ones, either for special effects ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ or for serious stuff √ � ♂ ♀ Σ, etc.
To gain access hold down the ALT key (don't let go), then press "1" on your Numeric Keypad on the right hand side (it won't work with the normal numerals above QWERTY). Now release the ALT key, hey presto! ☺☺☺☺☺
ALT 0189 = �, ALT 14 = ♫, ALT 225 = �, and so on.
If you have the patience you could make up a list and print out a table for reference, or refer to the back of an old DOS manual, or search the Internet - I can't remember whether these are called ASCI or ANSI character sets. I do know that if someone in Brazil for example is reading this message, the characters are unlikely to appear the same as in the UK because they would probably be using a different character set and the codes wouldn't all match up.
Of course if you are writing a letter in MS Word then you don't need to faff about like this - just click on 'Insert' at the top of your screen then select 'Symbol'. You'll see all the character sets and their options. Now why didn't I think of that . . . .
Regards also to Alibobs and Se�or Crofter. ja
Hello again Foxlee & Rogerr - promised I'd get back to you! Do your laptops have a "Fn" (Function) key, normally on the bottom row near the space bar? Also, do the keys "MJKLUIO789" show additional printed tiny numerals "0123456789"? I'm really hoping this is the case, as it would mean that you do after all have a "Numberpad" built into your keyboards! Some laptops even have an on/off display light near the top. Check out this link to see what it all looks like:
http://northlite.50megs.com/ps/numpad.htm
If not, I can't think what else to suggest unless another laptop user knows how to assign 'ascii' characters to the 12 standard Function keys along the top of your keyboards, sometimes using the 'Ctrl' key. I could show you how to do this in MS Word, what they call a 'macro', for '�', or any other combination of characters - trouble is, it wouldn't work outside the Word environment, so no good for emails! Anyway, this is all getting very techy and would be better discussed in Internet & Technology (← look left !).
Good Luck! ja
http://northlite.50megs.com/ps/numpad.htm
If not, I can't think what else to suggest unless another laptop user knows how to assign 'ascii' characters to the 12 standard Function keys along the top of your keyboards, sometimes using the 'Ctrl' key. I could show you how to do this in MS Word, what they call a 'macro', for '�', or any other combination of characters - trouble is, it wouldn't work outside the Word environment, so no good for emails! Anyway, this is all getting very techy and would be better discussed in Internet & Technology (← look left !).
Good Luck! ja
☼ Fantastic Rog/Barbara - life will never be the same again! Hope perhaps you can liaise with Foxlee whose PC should have the same capability. Foxlee - can you produce the � symbol within MS Word or indeed anywhere else? If so then it may be to do with your email program. Try again here:
► Fn, F8, Alt (hold) 0 1 8 9 (release)
G☺☺d Luck! ja
► Fn, F8, Alt (hold) 0 1 8 9 (release)
G☺☺d Luck! ja
Hi Johnalex and Rogerr.
Finally SUCCESS. My husband and I have spent about � hour messing about with the keys and, as you can see, we cracked it. The shift and Num lk didn't work, it was Fn and Num lk. So thank you both very much for your time and help.
Incidentally, mine is not an ancient laptop, I only got it for my birthday in January and still have loads to learn.
Finally SUCCESS. My husband and I have spent about � hour messing about with the keys and, as you can see, we cracked it. The shift and Num lk didn't work, it was Fn and Num lk. So thank you both very much for your time and help.
Incidentally, mine is not an ancient laptop, I only got it for my birthday in January and still have loads to learn.
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