Natural Hrt

[eve1974]

Hrt is not working entirely for me.

Thinking about seeing a naturopath, (or something).

History:
Early menopause (confirmed with blood tests) age 43
Peri for about a decade before that! (Awful symptoms!)

I’ve been on various hrt and currently the oestrogel 4pumps a day is working ok.

So all was good except that because of my age the docs insist I need progestin. I understand the reasoning for this, (cancer risk)

Well I have tried various regimes of the progestin tablets over the course of about a year. Doc at the time (ive since moved) really tried hard to tailor the dosage. Each regime made my anxiety / depression sky high.

So now new doc has inserted mirena....

but mirena has still changed my emotional state.

Debilitating

It’s only been 6 weeks of mirena but I just know my body. It doesn’t like it! Progestin and me don’t agree!!

Anyone gone down the entirely natural root for menopause symptoms?

Also of note (maybe?) is that throughout my fertile years I had endometriosis so I guess
My hormones have always been a bit loopy.

[eve1974]

I’m 46 now (nearly 47)

[woofgang]

yes I did. When I went through it, some 20 years agao it was premarin or patches or nothing. I wouldn't take the premarin on ethical grounds and the patches turned me into Perry Patterson's nasty more dangerous granny....seriously I would throw things, had no control, so I went onto natural remedies, none of which worked. Mentally and emotionally I was much better cold turkey but the physical symptoms were a bit of a challenge (dizzy spells so bad the GP thought it might be a neurological illness)....but I had no endometriosis to complicate matters.

[eve1974]

Shld Jane mentioned my question ...

Which is

Has anyone here gone the entirely natural route?

[woofgang]

oh ps I still get hot flushes and dizzy spells but greatly reduced.

[eve1974]

Ah woof ty for your speedy reply

[eve1974]

The symptoms are horrid aren’t they woof.?! I understand what you mean about no control.

People make jokes about things like this but hormones being out of kilter such!!

The physical symptoms of no hrt I can cope with (yes even the hot flushes - which were literally every hour....no jokes).

But it’s the mental brain fog without the hrt I struggle with. I seem totally and utterly brain dead. Can’t even find words for things I know I ought to know. That’s without the hrt


Then the oestrogen hrt helps that - a lot! But soon as they add the progestin my anxiety and / or depression goes thru the roof!

But then on

[eve1974]

I wanted to stay on oestrogel only but because of my age docs are insisting I need progestin

[eve1974]

But natural remedies didn’t help you (unfortunately)....

[woofgang]

its up to you and you need to think hard about what your doc says but they can't MAKE you take anything.

[jennyjoan]

took absolutely nothing re the menopause, I sailed it, so did my mother and my sister but know of many people who suffered dreadfully.

When I first went to a doctor many years ago - he said to me quite curtly (I wouldn't go onto it) - he said - if I had my way I would put every female on it, my mother, granny, aunt, sisters etc.

[eve1974]

Yeah woof I get that doc can’t force me etc but tbh she spelt out the risks of cancer if I don’t take the progesterone part so....

The oestrogel on its own is marvellous tho

[woofgang]

good job he didn't have his way then.

[eve1974]

Jenny so lucky for you that u sailed thru it. Silly doc saying he’d put “every” woman on it... if u don’t need it don’t use it

[calmck]

I took Menoforce a sage extract by Vogel and evening primrose oil from the age of 45. Symptoms were mild

[eve1974]

Ty calmck - I may try this. How long did it take for them to kick in do you think?

[calmck]

From what I can remember about a month

[eve1974]

Ty

[Maydup]

I took the natural route, but I consulted a specialist. Just like traditional medicine, its best not to buy products randomly off the shelf, instead consult a professional. It worked for me.

The person I used has retired now, but this is the type of practise I recommend you look for.

https://drhannahshort.co.uk

[eve1974]

Maydup that is great!!! Yes I was thinking of finding someone “professional”. I’m not in the east of England (I’m Somerset) but perhaps i can find similar here.

[eve1974]

Well my menopace arrived today. (Ty Amazon)

I’m gonna see an expert (as maydup did) but in the meantime figure menopace may help ... and if it doesn’t I’m no worse anyway.


Today in desperation I removed my own mirena coil (yes I’m sure drs may say don’t but really I couldn’t wait even a day longer.

The darn thing has been in only 7 weeks or so but my mood is sinking by the day, and I’ve had insomnia never since a few days after insertion.... related too I’m Convinced!

All the good that the months of oestrogen gel did (my emotions were good on oestrogel only) and this mirena has undone it.

I know doc said to give it at least 3 months but nope I know my body and Every single time estrogen (or it’s synthetic counterparts ) is introduced I sink. Doc had said that the mirena introduces it so slowly and in such minute amounts I’d tolerate it... wrong!


Perhaps I’m one of those women who is simply very intolerant of it.

I’ve had bad depression in the past (from age 15) and I’m sure much of that was hormonal anyway!!!

Rant over... wish me luck with menopace.